Author Topic: Diesel GOAT: The one I wish Toyota would have built  (Read 71990 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

helipilot77

  • Offline The 1K Club
  • *
  • Turtle Points: 976
  • Male Posts: 1,471
  • Member since Jul '12
  • Seattle, WA
    • My build thread
Got some engine tear down done today.
« Last Edit: Feb 02, 2018, 10:16:15 AM by helipilot77 »
-1987 SR5 4runner, 1KZ-te turbo diesel with custom 3" S.S. dump pipe, R-151f transmission, marlin dual ultimate transfer cases w/ triple shifter, SAS, 35's
-1984 SR5 Tercel 4wd wagon bone stock - given to my nephew
-1:10 scale RC 4wd crawler w/yota axles, R2 2 speed enclosed dig tranny and 1st gen 4Runner body by BigBird
-My build thread http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=98969.0
-My front axle service write-up http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=97311.0[/ur

helipilot77 [OP]

  • Offline The 1K Club
  • *
  • Turtle Points: 976
  • Male Posts: 1,471
  • Member since Jul '12
  • Seattle, WA
    • My build thread
Also made a crossmember for my RC crawler today.
That should be a nice place to weld the 4wheelunderground scale 3 and 4 link brackets to.
« Last Edit: Feb 19, 2018, 06:13:37 AM by helipilot77 »
-1987 SR5 4runner, 1KZ-te turbo diesel with custom 3" S.S. dump pipe, R-151f transmission, marlin dual ultimate transfer cases w/ triple shifter, SAS, 35's
-1984 SR5 Tercel 4wd wagon bone stock - given to my nephew
-1:10 scale RC 4wd crawler w/yota axles, R2 2 speed enclosed dig tranny and 1st gen 4Runner body by BigBird
-My build thread http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=98969.0
-My front axle service write-up http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=97311.0[/ur

zippo

  • Offline The 1.5K Club
  • **
  • Turtle Points: 534
  • Male Posts: 1,526
  • Member since Nov '08
    • oppiz.net
That looks like a lot of work. Pull the head off that motor. I want to see what the insides look like!
If you see it, its for sale.

redneckcustoms13

  • Offline The 2K Group
  • ***
  • Turtle Points: 6152
  • Male Posts: 2,275
  • Member since May '15
    • Buy me a beer
You need to do something quick, she ain't going far with a broken leaf spring lol
80 short bed, longs, hi steer, 4.7 case twin stick, 4.11, 38 tsl, mild built 22r
83 long bed, sas, hi steer, 3rz, w56, 4.56 33s
95 4runner project
06 4 door tacoma street truck

helipilot77 [OP]

  • Offline The 1K Club
  • *
  • Turtle Points: 976
  • Male Posts: 1,471
  • Member since Jul '12
  • Seattle, WA
    • My build thread
Thats why I'm switching to link suspension. The first time I powered her up and hit the throttle the massive torque of my brushless motor twisted the rear axle and snapped that rear leaf spring  :yikes:
That's when I realized I needed links.
-1987 SR5 4runner, 1KZ-te turbo diesel with custom 3" S.S. dump pipe, R-151f transmission, marlin dual ultimate transfer cases w/ triple shifter, SAS, 35's
-1984 SR5 Tercel 4wd wagon bone stock - given to my nephew
-1:10 scale RC 4wd crawler w/yota axles, R2 2 speed enclosed dig tranny and 1st gen 4Runner body by BigBird
-My build thread http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=98969.0
-My front axle service write-up http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=97311.0[/ur

redneckcustoms13

  • Offline The 2K Group
  • ***
  • Turtle Points: 6152
  • Male Posts: 2,275
  • Member since May '15
    • Buy me a beer
I got the axial ax10 whrn they came out in like 07-08 it now sets in my mom's attic. Expensive hobby them little tiny versions of real ones. Is yours a tamiya or rc4wd looks like rc4wd.
80 short bed, longs, hi steer, 4.7 case twin stick, 4.11, 38 tsl, mild built 22r
83 long bed, sas, hi steer, 3rz, w56, 4.56 33s
95 4runner project
06 4 door tacoma street truck

helipilot77 [OP]

  • Offline The 1K Club
  • *
  • Turtle Points: 976
  • Male Posts: 1,471
  • Member since Jul '12
  • Seattle, WA
    • My build thread
It's is all RC4wd but not a kit. Just a bunch of parts I put together.
-1987 SR5 4runner, 1KZ-te turbo diesel with custom 3" S.S. dump pipe, R-151f transmission, marlin dual ultimate transfer cases w/ triple shifter, SAS, 35's
-1984 SR5 Tercel 4wd wagon bone stock - given to my nephew
-1:10 scale RC 4wd crawler w/yota axles, R2 2 speed enclosed dig tranny and 1st gen 4Runner body by BigBird
-My build thread http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=98969.0
-My front axle service write-up http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=97311.0[/ur

helipilot77 [OP]

  • Offline The 1K Club
  • *
  • Turtle Points: 976
  • Male Posts: 1,471
  • Member since Jul '12
  • Seattle, WA
    • My build thread
Got the head off. Looks like there was some pitting on the head in number 3 cylinder. I have heard that happens when water particles are compressed.
« Last Edit: Feb 19, 2018, 06:14:25 AM by helipilot77 »
-1987 SR5 4runner, 1KZ-te turbo diesel with custom 3" S.S. dump pipe, R-151f transmission, marlin dual ultimate transfer cases w/ triple shifter, SAS, 35's
-1984 SR5 Tercel 4wd wagon bone stock - given to my nephew
-1:10 scale RC 4wd crawler w/yota axles, R2 2 speed enclosed dig tranny and 1st gen 4Runner body by BigBird
-My build thread http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=98969.0
-My front axle service write-up http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=97311.0[/ur

OVRAROK

  • Offline The 2.5K Group
  • ****
  • Turtle Points: 21164
  • Male Posts: 2,514
  • Member since Dec '10
    • my build
Moving right along
even the most primitive society has an intimate respect for the insane

redneckcustoms13

  • Offline The 2K Group
  • ***
  • Turtle Points: 6152
  • Male Posts: 2,275
  • Member since May '15
    • Buy me a beer
Pardon my ignorance of the 1kz, but looking at the injection pump it appears to be a mechanical pump. Is it as simple a fuel shut off solenoid and it runs? I know a 1kz-t is manual, where a 1kz-te is electronic which is the one you have?
80 short bed, longs, hi steer, 4.7 case twin stick, 4.11, 38 tsl, mild built 22r
83 long bed, sas, hi steer, 3rz, w56, 4.56 33s
95 4runner project
06 4 door tacoma street truck

LittleSteve

  • Offline 4WD Legend
  • *****
  • Turtle Points: -5
  • Male Posts: 839
  • Member since Jan '14
  • I dont even have a Toyota
    • Buy me some coffee
Pardon my ignorance of the 1kz, but looking at the injection pump it appears to be a mechanical pump. Is it as simple a fuel shut off solenoid and it runs? I know a 1kz-t is manual, where a 1kz-te is electronic which is the one you have?
Its the electronic pump and is run by ecu. If you can find a kzt your doing well
LittleSteve: Holding up traffic and giving dubious advice since 2014.

I was 1/5th of Perfect Fit. Well, i may still be but need confirmation off Uncle Chris.


Mae'r dyfodol yn drydan

helipilot77 [OP]

  • Offline The 1K Club
  • *
  • Turtle Points: 976
  • Male Posts: 1,471
  • Member since Jul '12
  • Seattle, WA
    • My build thread
Here is the link to a write up on Ih8mud on the conversion of a 1KZ-te to a mechanical pump, using a Mitsubishi 4M-40 mechanical injection pump made by Zexel.

http://forum.ih8mud.com/threads/1kz-t-no-longer-te-mitsu-4m40-pump-swap.536516/
-1987 SR5 4runner, 1KZ-te turbo diesel with custom 3" S.S. dump pipe, R-151f transmission, marlin dual ultimate transfer cases w/ triple shifter, SAS, 35's
-1984 SR5 Tercel 4wd wagon bone stock - given to my nephew
-1:10 scale RC 4wd crawler w/yota axles, R2 2 speed enclosed dig tranny and 1st gen 4Runner body by BigBird
-My build thread http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=98969.0
-My front axle service write-up http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=97311.0[/ur

LittleSteve

  • Offline 4WD Legend
  • *****
  • Turtle Points: -5
  • Male Posts: 839
  • Member since Jan '14
  • I dont even have a Toyota
    • Buy me some coffee
Here is the link to a write up on Ih8mud on the conversion of a 1KZ-te to a mechanical pump, using a Mitsubishi 4M-40 mechanical injection pump made by Zexel.

http://forum.ih8mud.com/threads/1kz-t-no-longer-te-mitsu-4m40-pump-swap.536516/

except the zexel pump has the wrong fuel plan for the kz, the injectors have different brake pressures etc etc etc. hence the having to wind the timing round.
The real answer would be to use a kz-t pump but there rare as hens teeth and then the kzte injectors wont match the plan for the kzt injectors...
and so on and so forth.....
LittleSteve: Holding up traffic and giving dubious advice since 2014.

I was 1/5th of Perfect Fit. Well, i may still be but need confirmation off Uncle Chris.


Mae'r dyfodol yn drydan

redneckcustoms13

  • Offline The 2K Group
  • ***
  • Turtle Points: 6152
  • Male Posts: 2,275
  • Member since May '15
    • Buy me a beer
Not trying to hijack the thread, but sounds like making a 24v cummins a ppump engine. I was just wondering about the differences in the two engines. I'm thinking about puting one in a 1st gen if I can get one for a decent price.
80 short bed, longs, hi steer, 4.7 case twin stick, 4.11, 38 tsl, mild built 22r
83 long bed, sas, hi steer, 3rz, w56, 4.56 33s
95 4runner project
06 4 door tacoma street truck

helipilot77 [OP]

  • Offline The 1K Club
  • *
  • Turtle Points: 976
  • Male Posts: 1,471
  • Member since Jul '12
  • Seattle, WA
    • My build thread
except the zexel pump has the wrong fuel plan for the kz, the injectors have different brake pressures etc etc etc. hence the having to wind the timing round.
The real answer would be to use a kz-t pump but there rare as hens teeth and then the kzte injectors wont match the plan for the kzt injectors...
and so on and so forth.....


It sounds like Bloc from the thread on mud got his running good with a little timing fiddling.

Not trying to hijack the thread, but sounds like making a 24v cummins a ppump engine. I was just wondering about the differences in the two engines. I'm thinking about puting one in a 1st gen if I can get one for a decent price.

I would think a 24v would be far too heavy for a first gen. I don't want to discourage you from doing something mad cool though. If you could pull it off it would be outrageous!! Maybe with a custom floorpan and heavy duty springs it could be done.
-1987 SR5 4runner, 1KZ-te turbo diesel with custom 3" S.S. dump pipe, R-151f transmission, marlin dual ultimate transfer cases w/ triple shifter, SAS, 35's
-1984 SR5 Tercel 4wd wagon bone stock - given to my nephew
-1:10 scale RC 4wd crawler w/yota axles, R2 2 speed enclosed dig tranny and 1st gen 4Runner body by BigBird
-My build thread http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=98969.0
-My front axle service write-up http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=97311.0[/ur

redneckcustoms13

  • Offline The 2K Group
  • ***
  • Turtle Points: 6152
  • Male Posts: 2,275
  • Member since May '15
    • Buy me a beer
Im not wasting a cummins in a toyota lol I was referring to making a kz-te a kz-t looks to be about the same process as a 12v pump swap on a 24v lol
80 short bed, longs, hi steer, 4.7 case twin stick, 4.11, 38 tsl, mild built 22r
83 long bed, sas, hi steer, 3rz, w56, 4.56 33s
95 4runner project
06 4 door tacoma street truck

OVRAROK

  • Offline The 2.5K Group
  • ****
  • Turtle Points: 21164
  • Male Posts: 2,514
  • Member since Dec '10
    • my build
here is the kz-t mechanical pump, almost fell back in my chair http://oemparter.com/oem-parts/2210067060.html
even the most primitive society has an intimate respect for the insane

helipilot77 [OP]

  • Offline The 1K Club
  • *
  • Turtle Points: 976
  • Male Posts: 1,471
  • Member since Jul '12
  • Seattle, WA
    • My build thread
Im not wasting a cummins in a toyota lol I was referring to making a kz-te a kz-t looks to be about the same process as a 12v pump swap on a 24v lol

Oh! well I can tell you that those are cool. I think putting one in a first gen would be sick. They are  so light you would have trouble putting all the power down unless you fill the back with rocks.

here is the kz-t mechanical pump, almost fell back in my chair http://oemparter.com/oem-parts/2210067060.html

It's worse than that because they actually aren't even available anymore. If you call those guys they will tell you that it is out of stock.
-1987 SR5 4runner, 1KZ-te turbo diesel with custom 3" S.S. dump pipe, R-151f transmission, marlin dual ultimate transfer cases w/ triple shifter, SAS, 35's
-1984 SR5 Tercel 4wd wagon bone stock - given to my nephew
-1:10 scale RC 4wd crawler w/yota axles, R2 2 speed enclosed dig tranny and 1st gen 4Runner body by BigBird
-My build thread http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=98969.0
-My front axle service write-up http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=97311.0[/ur

redneckcustoms13

  • Offline The 2K Group
  • ***
  • Turtle Points: 6152
  • Male Posts: 2,275
  • Member since May '15
    • Buy me a beer
Wow, you can completely build some diesel engines for that price.
Sorry for jacking your thread up with all this oil burner talk
80 short bed, longs, hi steer, 4.7 case twin stick, 4.11, 38 tsl, mild built 22r
83 long bed, sas, hi steer, 3rz, w56, 4.56 33s
95 4runner project
06 4 door tacoma street truck

helipilot77 [OP]

  • Offline The 1K Club
  • *
  • Turtle Points: 976
  • Male Posts: 1,471
  • Member since Jul '12
  • Seattle, WA
    • My build thread
Don't applogize. I like oil burner talk.
-1987 SR5 4runner, 1KZ-te turbo diesel with custom 3" S.S. dump pipe, R-151f transmission, marlin dual ultimate transfer cases w/ triple shifter, SAS, 35's
-1984 SR5 Tercel 4wd wagon bone stock - given to my nephew
-1:10 scale RC 4wd crawler w/yota axles, R2 2 speed enclosed dig tranny and 1st gen 4Runner body by BigBird
-My build thread http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=98969.0
-My front axle service write-up http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=97311.0[/ur

redneckcustoms13

  • Offline The 2K Group
  • ***
  • Turtle Points: 6152
  • Male Posts: 2,275
  • Member since May '15
    • Buy me a beer
I've read a bit on the kz-te, it's got quite a bit of punch in a small glass. How well did it perform compared to say a 22rte or a 3rz 4runner?
I'm happy with the 3rz in the dd 1st gen, but really would rather it be a clacking diesel that gets better fuel economy.
80 short bed, longs, hi steer, 4.7 case twin stick, 4.11, 38 tsl, mild built 22r
83 long bed, sas, hi steer, 3rz, w56, 4.56 33s
95 4runner project
06 4 door tacoma street truck

OVRAROK

  • Offline The 2.5K Group
  • ****
  • Turtle Points: 21164
  • Male Posts: 2,514
  • Member since Dec '10
    • my build
ive had my eye on the 1kd-ftv, looks like a sweet motor
even the most primitive society has an intimate respect for the insane

helipilot77 [OP]

  • Offline The 1K Club
  • *
  • Turtle Points: 976
  • Male Posts: 1,471
  • Member since Jul '12
  • Seattle, WA
    • My build thread
ive had my eye on the 1kd-ftv, looks like a sweet motor

It would be if it was reliable. Toyota has had a lot of trouble with. Major component failures.
-1987 SR5 4runner, 1KZ-te turbo diesel with custom 3" S.S. dump pipe, R-151f transmission, marlin dual ultimate transfer cases w/ triple shifter, SAS, 35's
-1984 SR5 Tercel 4wd wagon bone stock - given to my nephew
-1:10 scale RC 4wd crawler w/yota axles, R2 2 speed enclosed dig tranny and 1st gen 4Runner body by BigBird
-My build thread http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=98969.0
-My front axle service write-up http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=97311.0[/ur

LittleSteve

  • Offline 4WD Legend
  • *****
  • Turtle Points: -5
  • Male Posts: 839
  • Member since Jan '14
  • I dont even have a Toyota
    • Buy me some coffee
It would be if it was reliable. Toyota has had a lot of trouble with. Major component failures.
Go 2kd-ftv better motor all together...
LittleSteve: Holding up traffic and giving dubious advice since 2014.

I was 1/5th of Perfect Fit. Well, i may still be but need confirmation off Uncle Chris.


Mae'r dyfodol yn drydan

helipilot77 [OP]

  • Offline The 1K Club
  • *
  • Turtle Points: 976
  • Male Posts: 1,471
  • Member since Jul '12
  • Seattle, WA
    • My build thread
Today I tackled the task of removing the injection pump. So I started by making a puller. I have read that this thing can be a real PITA to remove. The TOYOTA SST uses two 6mmX1.0 bolts to go into the drive gear but I have seen others who made their own pullers and used 4 with much better success, so I used 4 10.9 grade 6mm bolts. And a fine thread 3/4" bolt in the center to push the pump shaft out.

It certainly took more pressure than I would have guessed for a mere half inch diameter tapered keyway shaft. But I got it to pop loose.
« Last Edit: Feb 19, 2018, 06:20:45 AM by helipilot77 »
-1987 SR5 4runner, 1KZ-te turbo diesel with custom 3" S.S. dump pipe, R-151f transmission, marlin dual ultimate transfer cases w/ triple shifter, SAS, 35's
-1984 SR5 Tercel 4wd wagon bone stock - given to my nephew
-1:10 scale RC 4wd crawler w/yota axles, R2 2 speed enclosed dig tranny and 1st gen 4Runner body by BigBird
-My build thread http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=98969.0
-My front axle service write-up http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=97311.0[/ur

redneckcustoms13

  • Offline The 2K Group
  • ***
  • Turtle Points: 6152
  • Male Posts: 2,275
  • Member since May '15
    • Buy me a beer
Your almost there, go ahead and do that manual pump swap we were discussing earlier and let the little thing get some juice in it!
80 short bed, longs, hi steer, 4.7 case twin stick, 4.11, 38 tsl, mild built 22r
83 long bed, sas, hi steer, 3rz, w56, 4.56 33s
95 4runner project
06 4 door tacoma street truck

helipilot77 [OP]

  • Offline The 1K Club
  • *
  • Turtle Points: 976
  • Male Posts: 1,471
  • Member since Jul '12
  • Seattle, WA
    • My build thread
Steve reports that the manual pump and injectors are being reworked now.
-1987 SR5 4runner, 1KZ-te turbo diesel with custom 3" S.S. dump pipe, R-151f transmission, marlin dual ultimate transfer cases w/ triple shifter, SAS, 35's
-1984 SR5 Tercel 4wd wagon bone stock - given to my nephew
-1:10 scale RC 4wd crawler w/yota axles, R2 2 speed enclosed dig tranny and 1st gen 4Runner body by BigBird
-My build thread http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=98969.0
-My front axle service write-up http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=97311.0[/ur

OVRAROK

  • Offline The 2.5K Group
  • ****
  • Turtle Points: 21164
  • Male Posts: 2,514
  • Member since Dec '10
    • my build
so was steve able to source one out in his neck of the woods?
even the most primitive society has an intimate respect for the insane

helipilot77 [OP]

  • Offline The 1K Club
  • *
  • Turtle Points: 976
  • Male Posts: 1,471
  • Member since Jul '12
  • Seattle, WA
    • My build thread
so was steve able to source one out in his neck of the woods?

He told me he had one on its way to his pump guy.  :clap:
-1987 SR5 4runner, 1KZ-te turbo diesel with custom 3" S.S. dump pipe, R-151f transmission, marlin dual ultimate transfer cases w/ triple shifter, SAS, 35's
-1984 SR5 Tercel 4wd wagon bone stock - given to my nephew
-1:10 scale RC 4wd crawler w/yota axles, R2 2 speed enclosed dig tranny and 1st gen 4Runner body by BigBird
-My build thread http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=98969.0
-My front axle service write-up http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=97311.0[/ur

OVRAROK

  • Offline The 2.5K Group
  • ****
  • Turtle Points: 21164
  • Male Posts: 2,514
  • Member since Dec '10
    • my build
way to go steve  :clap2:
even the most primitive society has an intimate respect for the insane

 
 
 
 
 

Related Topics

35 Replies
6749 Views
Last post Feb 06, 2009, 09:36:31 PM
by twistedtoy92
79 Replies
18521 Views
Last post Oct 14, 2010, 09:39:10 AM
by Fleetwood
2 Replies
1136 Views
Last post Nov 26, 2008, 11:19:26 AM
by JohnHalladay
1 Replies
934 Views
Last post Jun 19, 2009, 10:25:10 AM
by Pat
1 Replies
976 Views
Last post Jan 07, 2012, 12:42:09 PM
by bknaus