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2007 Minivan build aka jk unlimited
« on: May 01, 2015, 03:34:12 PM »
So my family is growing and I needed a new rig. My previous rig seen here http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=26920.0 Did not have the room needed to haul the family so i picked this up. Plans are still in the works. The truck is getting sold this weekend so the fun parts should be coming soon. I am thinking at least rear locker, rubi t case, gears, 35-37s and 2.5-3 inches of lift with the normal armor like sliders, bumpers and tube fenders.

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Re: 2007 JK unlimited build the "Green Lantern"
« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2015, 03:50:01 PM »

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Re: 2007 JK unlimited build the "Green Lantern"
« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2015, 03:57:38 PM »
Great rig!  In your shoes I would not settle for anything less than 37s and whatever lift you need to clear them. They have a long wheelbase which translates to a poor break over angle. Plus, they just look so good with big tires and 37s is about the biggest tire you really have any hope of balancing well for the street.
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Re: 2007 JK unlimited build the "Green Lantern"
« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2015, 04:04:40 PM »
Great rig!  In your shoes I would not settle for anything less than 37s and whatever lift you need to clear them. They have a long wheelbase which translates to a poor break over angle. Plus, they just look so good with big tires and 37s is about the biggest tire you really have any hope of balancing well for the street.

I wheeled longer wheelbase with 35s with no issues. I am about 10 inches shorter now so i should be fine
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Re: 2007 JK unlimited build the "Green Lantern"
« Reply #4 on: May 02, 2015, 06:35:41 AM »
Love 4-doors, have fun building. I really like Lances from POR. Do not have any details except it has a Rock Jock 60 and 70.
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Re: 2007 JK unlimited build the "Green Lantern"
« Reply #5 on: May 02, 2015, 08:22:18 AM »
I always love that green.  Reminds me of the color of the cow :pokinit: locally.  But its a good color.   :thumbs:

Do some reading before you commit.  I have heard alot about how weak those axles and drivelines truly are.  Even the Rubicon with it's D44 stuff, still very weak. 
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Re: 2007 JK unlimited build the "Green Lantern"
« Reply #6 on: May 02, 2015, 09:10:43 AM »
I wheeled longer wheelbase with 35s with no issues. I am about 10 inches shorter now so i should be fine

I think the drivetrain is a lot lower compared to a Toyota so you may find that a similar lift height and tire combo drags a lot more. Toyota seem to tuck everything forward which keeps it forward of the center of break over. 

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Re: 2007 JK unlimited build the "Green Lantern"
« Reply #7 on: May 02, 2015, 10:49:00 AM »
I wheeled longer wheelbase with 35s with no issues. I am about 10 inches shorter now so i should be fine

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I build jeeps had 3 jks (1 2dr 2 4dr) built as wild as it gets all custom....I run with guys with 60s and 40s on their jeeps and my Toyota on 37s (4 Dr 03 taco) destroys them.....faster in desert, climbs rocks and waterfalls easy etc...
Don't put a jeep in the same category as a toyota....the jk is amazing but sits vertical so low belly height where toyota sits horizontal so high belly height and low roof...totally different set ups....

Mine on 37s has 27" frame and a small 25" section where the tcase is...
Jeep jk has 20" and 17" along the whole side of passenger side where the gas tank tcase and tranny is....
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Re: 2007 JK unlimited build the "Green Lantern"
« Reply #8 on: May 02, 2015, 02:09:42 PM »
Still not worried about it.  I am not going to be wheelin it the same
As the Toyota. Mostly local trails up here and maybe a rubicon or fordyce trip.
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Re: 2007 JK unlimited build the "Green Lantern"
« Reply #9 on: May 02, 2015, 04:02:33 PM »
Still not worried about it.  I am not going to be wheelin it the same
As the Toyota. Mostly local trails up here and maybe a rubicon or fordyce trip.

You'll be fine for that...if you have wheeled your Toyota hard it will be a little frustrating at first...aim tires for the rocks and get it up and on to avoid dragging  belly...they are great rigs loved mine....I need a buggy so my 4dr taco was as close as I get to daily driver / buggy....

To do list for you:
c-gussets
Inner axle sleeves and or truss
Synergy ball joints
Cut the purple with light blue wire under center console and attach a toggle (esp will mess with you when the steering is off from wheeling ) this cuts the loop so you can drive safely without it trying to engage and take over.
Weld washer to frame side tracbar mount 9/16 washer and 9/166 bolt 4" with shoulder
If your night blind swap a 5000k hid conversion cheap and easy
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Re: 2007 JK unlimited build the "Green Lantern"
« Reply #10 on: May 02, 2015, 05:30:19 PM »
Yeah I planned gussets and a truss. There is a switch for esp that looks like I can turn it off. I will check it the hid conversion. I need armor and bumpers. Looking at the metal cloak stuff for the lift
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Re: 2007 JK unlimited build the "Green Lantern"
« Reply #11 on: May 02, 2015, 05:33:31 PM »
Yeah I planned gussets and a truss. There is a switch for esp that looks like I can turn it off. I will check it the hid conversion. I need armor and bumpers. Looking at the metal cloak stuff for the lift

Will at metal cloak is a good guy...
The switch doesn't do :pokinit:....iif your box allows some slide so steering wheel is off it will be a pain in the @$$....cut the wire at the accelerometer and put a switch in.
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Re: 2007 JK unlimited build the "Green Lantern"
« Reply #12 on: May 02, 2015, 06:16:09 PM »
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Re: 2007 JK unlimited build the "Green Lantern"
« Reply #13 on: May 02, 2015, 06:27:42 PM »
Will at metal cloak is a good guy...
The switch doesn't do :pokinit:....iif your box allows some slide so steering wheel is off it will be a pain in the @$$....cut the wire at the accelerometer and put a switch in.

Will do on that switch then.
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Re: 2007 JK unlimited build the "Green Lantern"
« Reply #14 on: May 02, 2015, 06:38:48 PM »

Will do on that switch then.

If you have any questions feel free to hit me up...I'm authorized with about every vendor out there but have built a lot of these with d60s 40s custom cages bolt in etc....I've built some wild and expensive rigs but can definently address the known weak issues as well as what should be done and what will work...

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I see so much double spending going on and money put other places before where the customer wanted because they were sold a line of bull crap.
Built another one pretty wild we took him wheeling and a week later he stopped putting money into his jk now he has a Toyota with 39s and 4 link stretch....he keeps his jeep for mild stuff....lol tried to tell him knowing how Rob is that he wanted a toy to crawl and a jeep for the other 95%....he's happy now...lol.

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I've got 2 at the shop now for pro rock 60s the other is 14 bolt and a 1990 kingpin 69 as well a s a 2 door we are cutting and doing a poly 8" stretch with comp cut...lol that one has 1500 miles on it 2015 he has already bashed the lower sides and body...we swapped 44s in it with lockers and regeared as well lifted it and custom cage and body panels....
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Re: 2007 JK unlimited build the "Green Lantern"
« Reply #15 on: May 02, 2015, 06:43:57 PM »
I know the axles are weak kinda temped to get a rock jock 44 for it right off the bat. But I think I'll just truss and gusset it and put in some 4.88s and keep it open in the front
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Re: 2007 JK unlimited build the "Green Lantern"
« Reply #16 on: May 02, 2015, 06:48:02 PM »
Artec ran a d30 with 40s for a year and half...4:56 gears open...and held just fine but did truss and gusset...so it takes a lot of deflection and flex away from the housing keeping things a little more ridgid.
Pro rock is a name....just housing strength which a used d44 with sleeves and c-gussets as well as ball joints will do the same thing for a lot less....the factory lockers are a 4 pin design electromagnet and overall a quality unit...the ones destroyed usually is so done abusing and driving like a a-hole....


DO NOT DRIVE IT LIKE A TOYOTA...it will not handle the abuse. GUARANTEED...
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Re: 2007 JK unlimited build the "Green Lantern"
« Reply #17 on: May 02, 2015, 06:55:44 PM »
i guess I'll just gear the 30 and keep it open for now with a truss and gussets. I will arb the rear. That will save me some money.
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Re: 2007 JK unlimited build the "Green Lantern"
« Reply #18 on: May 02, 2015, 07:02:38 PM »
i guess I'll just gear the 30 and keep it open for now with a truss and gussets. I will arb the rear. That will save me some money.

I'd look for. Decent d44 housing and gear it then....I wouldn't spend a dime on the 30 if you plan to upgrade...I'd leave it alone.
A good housing can be had for $200 to $400....or someone who has swapped....I have grabbed front and rear Rubicon axles with lockers that had less than 500 miles for $1800 total....
If you do anything address the cgussets....there's no resell on a 30...

Also the 44s on a jk aren't like wagoner units...better bearings, synergy makes ball joints for them but the lack of manual hubs sucks...spintek makes a manual conversion and with custom shafts it's around $2200..ouch.
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Re: 2007 JK unlimited build the "Green Lantern"
« Reply #19 on: May 02, 2015, 07:05:22 PM »
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Re: 2007 JK unlimited build the "Green Lantern"
« Reply #20 on: May 02, 2015, 07:09:05 PM »
I'd look for. Decent d44 housing and gear it then....I wouldn't spend a dime on the 30 if you plan to upgrade...I'd leave it alone.
A good housing can be had for $200 to $400....or someone who has swapped....I have grabbed front and rear Rubicon axles with lockers that had less than 500 miles for $1800 total....
If you do anything address the cgussets....there's no resell on a 30...

Also the 44s on a jk aren't like wagoner units...better bearings, synergy makes ball joints for them but the lack of manual hubs sucks...spintek makes a manual conversion and with custom shafts it's around $2200..ouch.

 Most 44 housings I find are over a grand for a bare one. 
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Re: 2007 JK unlimited build the "Green Lantern"
« Reply #21 on: May 02, 2015, 07:24:42 PM »

 Most 44 housings I find are over a grand for a bare one.
I'll look around...I just bought one last week $100...had a bad Trac bar bent came off border patrol jeep...welded a artec bracket on and loaded it up...
If I find something I'll post up.
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Re: 2007 JK unlimited build the "Green Lantern"
« Reply #22 on: May 02, 2015, 07:32:12 PM »
Call Brian at motech in Las vegas...if he is doing a ls swap on a Rubicon h3 needs the 2:73 tcase...so for yours and $500 he usually swaps you.
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Re: 2007 JK unlimited build the "Green Lantern"
« Reply #23 on: May 02, 2015, 07:36:59 PM »
Forgot...i have a rear Rubicon d44 with 4:56 gears and chromoly shafts, poison Spyder diff cover and raised Trac bar bracket... $850...low miles all working perfect. Gears have 1000 miles on em...locker is mint.
Customer had me take jeep back to stock to turn back in...had a new baby girl and with life didn't need the payments.
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Re: 2007 JK unlimited build the "Green Lantern"
« Reply #24 on: May 03, 2015, 04:26:37 PM »
Thanks glad I found someone who tells it like it is. It is goin to be a mild to moderate wheeler to have
Fun in and do trails like the rubicon  and expo type stuff. I'm pretty easy on stuff even with 39.5s I never broke a 44 shaft. I just want to do it right and not buy :pokinit: 2 times
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Re: 2007 JK unlimited build the "Green Lantern"
« Reply #25 on: May 06, 2015, 09:44:27 PM »
http://www.metalcloak.com/JK-Wrangler-3-5-Dual-Rate-Lift-Kit-p/7115.htm I think i am going to star with this kit to lift and then add new arms as i need them. I just need to find a front rubicon axle for a good deal before I get this started
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Re: 2007 JK unlimited build the "Green Lantern"
« Reply #26 on: May 06, 2015, 10:25:03 PM »
Watching this, better use that money on some good :pokinit::thumbs:
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Re: 2007 JK unlimited build the "Green Lantern"
« Reply #27 on: May 06, 2015, 10:31:54 PM »
Seems to be the best kit for the money
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Re: 2007 JK unlimited build the "Green Lantern"
« Reply #28 on: May 07, 2015, 05:16:06 PM »
Thinking about getting some sliders and might have a t case lined up. I am still lookin for a rubicon front axle if anyone finds one.
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Re: 2007 JK unlimited build the "Green Lantern"
« Reply #29 on: May 07, 2015, 05:30:01 PM »
Thinking about getting some sliders and might have a t case lined up. I am still lookin for a rubicon front axle if anyone finds one.

Get this thing capable for all the trips this summer dude. We need a new black sheep. Our last one moved away to DC.

 
 
 
 
 

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