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I been running without a cat for so long my computer dosnt even throw a code anymore. Haha
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Haha. Its probably jail time f you don't run a cat here in cali  :help:
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Yes I do enjoy punchin myself a cat once in a while  :boxing:
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I wanna see a video WOT 1st to 5th!!! DO IT DO IT!    :yupyup:
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K dudes I will do. But first I'm guna change my turbo hoprfully for the last time until someday redoing the whole kit with bigger and badder stuff. I've tried everything and for now I want the turbo back on with the built in BOV. I've tried two different recirc valves runnin them open, back to the intake pre and post map, tried my eBay BOV, it still likes to die upon returning to idle especially if comin from higher rpms. It did no such thing with the other turbo, that built in BOV regulates boost really really well u can hear if bleeding off air when u gear down these other ones let pressure build. I only want boost when I'm giving it throttle ya kno.  Anyway I'm guna take some pics of all the different turbos I have now and especially the two that have the BOV on them but each one has a different hot side on them.
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Well I changed turbos again to another one from a junyard. It's similar to the td05-12b but the wastegate supposedly flows better so I can keep the boost down well that's not the case. I just had the same type of waste gate on my truck and boost was perfect the only reason I changed again was to get the BOV back. I think I might try and run the Garrett in one of the pics that has the bigger exhaust side that should keep heat down then ill just make an adapter to run one of the volvo BOVs I like so much in the charge pipe. Only bad thing about that is with the BOV in its compressor housing it also acts as a recirc valve wich is crazy. It must recirc some and blow of the rest maybe that's why it works so well for me
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I wana run the first td05-12b that I had on. It was by far the best sounding and all around smooth running but the boost was too high. There was an optional cap on the exhaust housing I took out and I'm guna run a dump pipe that will allow me to keep boost down. I'm also guna port out the tunnel that bypasses the turbine. Hopefully this will be the ticket then I can finally leave it be until I get the bigger turbo and ex waste gate then I'll start messing with the piggy back setup.
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This is the turbo I'm guna stick with after trying 3 different.
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Hey Newbe, cut that meow :pokinit: off please... :whip: You're cluttering the thread with nonsense!  :slap:
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You post bulls--t I remove it. Ha
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So I talked to a tech at urd and I we decided to add some money and send me the maf sensor calibrator with map sensor. It dosnt have timing control but I'm guna try it out beins I already had some credit from that voltage clamp I was guna buy. I also have the SAFC but I wana use the urd device and make my own tune first. I'm runnin very low boost so it shouldn't  take much to tune my fuel trims. I'm runnin lean so gotta take care of that. My closed loop fuel trims arnt too crazy but my open loop trims get super lean. I have some work todo with the split second r4 tuning software tht comes with the maf cal.
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Hey Newbe, cut that meow :pokinit: off please... :whip: You're cluttering the thread with nonsense!  :slap:

Thanks for tellin that jacka-- what's up. You got my back!
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No prob! That kinda stuff irritates me...
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The BOV does not regulate boost your waste gate does. The BOV bleeds off the boost when you are boosting hard and let off the throttle. All that pressure when the throttle blades close has no where to go but back into the turbo. I've been running an Ebay turbo for 4years and I killed it with a dirty air filter. LOl Good thing I have an inner cooler for the dirt to collect before it got into my motor. I've been running 10lbs of boost  most of the time. I bought a t3/t04 from cxracing 60/48 and am hitting 22psi for the last few weeks. LOL awesome power just won the 44' and under class at the local mud bogs. I have a mild 22rte with a MLS head gasket, stock toyota .20 pistions and eagle rods. I like my internal wastgate for pluming issues. I have a garret with the same specs but the compressor is a 57 trim and the exhaust has a stage 3 wheel on it and has to much drive pressure at part throttle. That's why I got the standard 60/48. Spend some time on the taco forums and see what other people are running.
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Thanks for the post. I realize the waste gate regulates boost. Just seems like the built in BOV realeases even when pressures are low versus the others I've ran will only blow off when the throttle slams shut. I really want to just run a t3/t4 with an external wg with a spring for the psi I want. I can't talk bad about internal wgs cause I still haven't tried one with the right spring in it.
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The BOV does not regulate boost your waste gate does. The BOV bleeds off the boost when you are boosting hard and let off the throttle. All that pressure when the throttle blades close has no where to go but back into the turbo. I've been running an Ebay turbo for 4years and I killed it with a dirty air filter. LOl Good thing I have an inner cooler for the dirt to collect before it got into my motor. I've been running 10lbs of boost  most of the time. I bought a t3/t04 from cxracing 60/48 and am hitting 22psi for the last few weeks. LOL awesome power just won the 44' and under class at the local mud bogs. I have a mild 22rte with a MLS head gasket, stock toyota .20 pistions and eagle rods. I like my internal wastgate for pluming issues. I have a garret with the same specs but the compressor is a 57 trim and the exhaust has a stage 3 wheel on it and has to much drive pressure at part throttle. That's why I got the standard 60/48. Spend some time on the taco forums and see what other people are running.
If your running an internal wastegate at 22psi are you just running the factory wg that came with that turbo and keepin it closed or? I know most of those factory wg are like 12 psi and some are higher. I know all the acuators I have are all way higher than the boost I've put out cause I've never been able have get one to open up. I was thinkin bout tryin one of the adjustable internal acuators that come with a 5 10 or 15 spring.
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The wastegate is factory set to 7psi but I have an in cab boost controller, that does not work. LOl the turbo it self maxes at like 25psi. I saw 20 on the street and assume it hit 22ish in the mud. The wasteegate can be adjusted by making the rod from the actuator to the wastegate flapper longer or shorter, or just make your own boost controller, or buy one. It just tweaks the amount of boost the actuator see's. If I were to unhook the controller I would only hit 7psi. I will try to post some pics. I payed 236.00 for my turbo and wastgate. spools hard!! I love it.
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I finally put my big turbo on and the bigger exhaust side really makes a huge difference plus I got lucky and the acuator on this turbo has a 7 psi spring I have adjusted out running under 5 til I start tuning. The only thing that sucks is I'm back to my truck dying when if idles down. It dosnt do that with the two turbos I have that have built in BOVs but I'm thinkin it will stop once it's tuned for the extra air flow. I even put a baffle type thing out of a volvo maf it's like a honeycomb thing it helped but still stumbles when dropping down to idle.
Here's the difference between the outlet of the turbo I took off and the one I put on. It's a garret tdo3 that's pretty much all it says on it.
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Here's my new setup.
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I hope you get it figured out. I have a 3rz on my engine stand that will be a 600hp monster! I'm gonna build it right and throw 30psi at it and really make those v8's look stupid. I know how to tune my 22rte but the 3rz will be new to me. Thats how I came across your thread, I need to know what I'm in for. The guys at 22rtetrucks helped me out a bunch. That with about 150 hours of surfing the web for turbo info. LOL I have lots of pics of my yota on my photobucket account here is the link. I had a build thread on here but most people are not interested in the 22rte I guess. Most of the video and pics were from last year or the year before. Have some cool vids on youtube. Just look up Wheely walkin' up a snow drift in my turbo 4runner. My channel name is snowwalker2010. I built her for the snow Up here in montana.
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I can relate, I live in the foothills of Portland half the year and prinville the other part. We get good snow in prinville and the mountains of Portland. Ill give feedback on how the tuning goes on the 3rz. I have two different piggybacks I'm guna try for awhile, the maf sensor cal. Bein the first I'm guna install, but when I get good with the tuning software depending on how good the piggy back devices perform I might go standalone. I like the map3 ecu it has a lot of really cool features. There's a wifi retrofit for it so you can tune your rig while sittin on the couch. Haha so far without a tune the bigger turbo is 10x better. It still stumbles in open loop pretty bad but it spools pretty clos to how I like it too and no more red hot mani and outlet. It's a good feelin that it's staying cooler now, that red hot sh-t had me nervous
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You're gonna be a turbo whiz!    :beerchug:
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Keep up the good work!
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Good to hear your EGT's are lower, my last turbo would get so hot at 22 psi that it looked like it was going to melt right off... always good to run the largest/best spooling turbine housing that suits your engines wants/needs :beerchug: Nice work by the way, sounds like you've gained some valuable knowledge with this build!  :thumbs: :burnout: :driving:
2005 Audi A4 2.0T Quattro 380 AWHP @ 24psi
1993 Toyota Pickup http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=72886.msg866982#msg866982
1992 Toyota Pickup http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=49319.msg616251#msg616251
1985 4runner http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=60737.msg745263#msg745263

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Good to hear your EGT's are lower, my last turbo would get so hot at 22 psi that it looked like it was going to melt right off... always good to run the largest/best spooling turbine housing that suits your engines wants/needs :beerchug: Nice work by the way, sounds like you've gained some valuable knowledge with this build!  :thumbs: :burnout: :driving:
I have you to thank. As soon as you told me I need a bigger outlet I went searching the junkyard and this is the turbo I found. I was trying to make the other turbos with the built in BOV/recirc because my truck didn't die but I knew the whole time I would end up putting the bigger turbo on. I'm happy with this setup now on to tuning. I'm guna start build a new map tonight and begin what's probly guna end up being a year long tuning session haha. Thanks for all the valuable knowledge I'm learning a lot on this thread. I learn more everyday it's been crazy.

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Keep up the good work!
Thanks man.
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Well it seems like every time I really like somethin it dosnt work out for very long. The Garrett td03 started leaking oil and burning out my tailpipe wich either means it was just its time or I needed to restrict the oil flow to it. I tried putting a restrictor inline with the feed but it's too late the seal is already blown from running too much oil pressure. Anyway I put one of the other turbos back on so I can get to work beins the tags are bad on my jetta. I'm guna rebuild the td03, I'm confident in doing so but anyone kno if I put new seals and copper bushings in it and use the same turbines and shaft do I still need to get if balanced, any good tricks out there TWISTED TOY?
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