Author Topic: What do you guys think about our new Short Throw Shift Base? (Read 79636 times)

BigMike · « **on:** Oct 04, 2012, 10:34:02 PM »

Source: http://www.marlincrawler.com/transmission/shifter-parts/short-throw-shifter-base

What sets our new base apart from other kits?

Leak-free One-piece Design
Serviceable 10.9 Grade Pivots
Includes Pre-modified Toyota Shift Handle
Includes the World's BEST Heavy Duty Seat and Socket
Low Profile Design for floorboard clearance
Made in USA from USA Billet Aluminum
Integrated Factory Toyota Breather

We know that used bases with good pivots are becoming harder and harder to find. This solution has all new parts and the pivots are 1) stronger than stock, and 2) rebuildable.
So what do you guys think?

Initial Applications Include... (more applications coming soon)

1984 G52 Transmission
1985-1989 G54 Transmission
1986-1987 R151F Turbo Transmission
1988-1995 R150F Transmission
1995-2005 R150F Transmission

Click here for more info -- Use the "Notify" button to be automatically notified once this bad-boy is ready for sale!!
Clicky: http://www.marlincrawler.com/transmission/shifter-parts/short-throw-shifter-base

BigMike

Dingman. · « **Reply #1 on:** Oct 04, 2012, 10:36:37 PM »

Interesting! Price estimate?

fj-rankenstein · « **Reply #2 on:** Oct 05, 2012, 04:54:32 PM »

very nice... is the premodified toyota shift handle the same as what you guys have been doing and just lengthening the stub part that goes into the tranny or is this a new piece entirely?? very interested for my 1992 R150f..

hansi530 · « **Reply #3 on:** Oct 05, 2012, 06:59:21 PM »

looks awesome i want one when they come out

rockalot · « **Reply #4 on:** Oct 06, 2012, 08:26:14 AM »

What are the specs on the shift handle, photo?
What about the throw, video maybe?

superyota · « **Reply #5 on:** Oct 06, 2012, 09:10:50 AM »

Looks great! When will they be available for a w56?

SierraDave · « **Reply #6 on:** Oct 09, 2012, 03:08:22 PM »

Quote from: superyota on Oct 06, 2012, 09:10:50 AM

Looks great! When will they be available for a w56?

x2

Will the r151 model fit an AX-15?

BigMike · « **Reply #7 on:** Oct 10, 2012, 12:53:01 PM »

Thanks for the replies guys!

Quote from: Dingman. on Oct 04, 2012, 10:36:37 PM

Interesting! Price estimate?

Price is $179 which includes the following:

USA made short throw base from USA billet aluminum
New 10.9-grade Pivots and a Toyota breather pre-installed
Modified and reconditioned Toyota shift handle
New Toyota shift handle boot
Our Heavy Duty USA-made Shift Seat
Our Heavy Duty USA-made Shift Socket
Four 8.8-grade 8x1.25mm base bolts
Four 8mm lock washers

It's everything you need minus silicone. We are charging a refundable core charge on the shift handle, otherwise we'd run out of handles after a few months. We have handles organized here by application to match each order.

Quote from: fj-rankenstein on Oct 05, 2012, 04:54:32 PM

very nice... is the premodified toyota shift handle the same as what you guys have been doing and just lengthening the stub part that goes into the tranny or is this a new piece entirely??

Yes Sirree, same as before with a lengthened section beneath the pivot

Quote from: rockalot on Oct 06, 2012, 08:26:14 AM

What are the specs on the shift handle, photo?
What about the throw, video maybe?

I am working on the specs, a kit photo, and will make an animated image showing the before and after difference. I believe the reduction in throw is around 60%

Quote from: superyota on Oct 06, 2012, 09:10:50 AM

Looks great! When will they be available for a w56?

At this time I am not sure. They are next on our list and I'll reply back with info as soon as possible

Quote from: SierraDave on Oct 09, 2012, 03:08:22 PM

Will the r151 model fit an AX-15?

The answer is yes, the bolt patter of the shifter bases are interchangeable between a R151F and an AX-15, however the shift handles are not. The AX-15 uses a larger diameter shift handle pivot ball which won't fit in our shift base. The option would be to use our short throw base along with a Toyota shift handle (from any V6 5-speed Toyota truck), but the Toyota handle uses a metric shift knob thread and won't match the height nor bend of your original shifter. If you can live with these points, then yes, you can convert over to the Toyota base and handle setup and be rocking an awesome short throw kit on your AX-15 today! $Beer Chug\'n$

Regards,
BigMike

BigMike · « **Reply #8 on:** Oct 10, 2012, 12:55:46 PM »

Got a few install photos from a 3rd gen 4Runner

You can see our HD shift seat installed:

Here is the new Toyota Boot:

Here is what our reconditioned shift handles look like:

BigMike · « **Reply #9 on:** Oct 10, 2012, 03:24:58 PM »

I forgot to include that in standard Marlin Crawler fashion we are offering a special limited time Introductory Price of just $149 for the entire kit! This price won't last long!

BigMike · « **Reply #10 on:** Oct 10, 2012, 04:56:01 PM »

Some people have asked why we didn't start with the W-series transmission. Rest assured it is the next transmission on our list to develop one-piece bases for.

The reason why we went with the base we designed is twofold:
#1) It reaches a majority of our customers, as the single kit fits the following 8 applications:
G52, G54, G58, 3.0-liter R150F, 3.4-liter R150F, Turbo R151F, and Jeep/Dodge AX-5 & AX-15 (these Chrysler applications coming soon).
The date range of this one kit fits a 20-year application spread from 1984-2004, and fits Hilux Pickups, Hilux 4Runners, T100s, Tacomas, 3rd gen 4Runners, and Tundras -- all from this single kit. It's also possible our new kit fits the MA5, AN5, and AR5, which are used in GM and Isuzu applications, however we don't know this to be true outside of their internal compatibilities (send me a PM with shifter base pictures if you have one of these!).

#2) The W-series is popular, it's what I have in my personal rig, but the bases are broken up into four different styles, the A/B, C, D/E, and the W59. The bolt patterns of the C and D/E bases are the same, so only three different bases will be needed, but the application spread here is far smaller:
W56A/B or W56C/D/E or W59
So we'd need to either choose to release the kit for the A/B or the C/D/E or the W59, which means we'd only be capturing a smaller percentage of users with the introduction product.

So as you can see the kit we designed is the clear winner in terms of compatibility. This doesn't mean we aren't going to be releasing them, or already developing W-series kits

BigMike

GRW · « **Reply #11 on:** Oct 11, 2012, 11:41:02 AM »

How much differance does it make (how much shorter)?
Sorry I was reading it quick, noticed the "I believe the reduction in throw is around 60%".
Is that 30% off both front and back throw?
The reason I ask is my tripple sticks forced me to turn my shifter around and pull the top towards the back.
The handle still hits the dash

but it works and my console is one piece....
Thanks

BigMike · « **Reply #12 on:** Oct 11, 2012, 04:33:30 PM »

Yes Sir, the 60% number is total throw from front to back as well as side to side. So 30% forward and 30% rearward from a center position.

I'm out of town (in San Jose) until Monday, then we'll be posting some more info on this

Also, because we are lifting the pivot point up 1 inch above its stock location, the shift handle will also be inch taller than stock.

BigMike

jimbo74 · « **Reply #13 on:** Oct 11, 2012, 04:48:52 PM »

are the production pieces red anodized?

boomtacoma01 · « **Reply #14 on:** Oct 11, 2012, 07:03:46 PM »

Ordered mine for my R151 on tuesday.

Should be a cool addition

Nice job mike and marlin !

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BigMike · « **Reply #15 on:** Oct 11, 2012, 08:45:11 PM »

Jimbo: Yes

Awesome, thanks for the order! Pls post up what ya think after it's installed!

BigMike

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GRW · « **Reply #16 on:** Oct 12, 2012, 02:56:33 PM »

Trying to get one ordered........no luck getting through on the phone........
Have a couple questions that need answered, main one is on my shifter.
It has been bent at the top to keep it out of the dash and the triple sticks.
If it's not going to be core able than I will keep it.....?

BigMike · « **Reply #17 on:** Oct 15, 2012, 12:45:39 PM »

Hey Gary,

Replied to your PMs and glad you got through. Were we able to answer your questions over the phone?

Thanks!
Mike

GRW · « **Reply #18 on:** Oct 16, 2012, 11:57:29 AM »

Sort of....... I asked if Marlin wanted my shifter (been slightly modified). I told the guy on the other end if not, no sense shipping it. Did not sound like he wanted to guess. I had to turn my shifter around and heat the tip up and bed it back a little to clear the dash. I am fairly sure it could be straightened if a person wanted to. If you think you may still want it (or would like to see a picture) let me know. If not I will straighten it and through it in the parts for sale pile. I had to modify it to miss the triple sticks. When I shifted into 2nd & 4th it hit the t-case shifters. Once the new parts come in I will take some pictures while installing. I also had to recess my radio to miss the shifter. It will be nice to have a little space in front of the shifter.

BigMike · « **Reply #19 on:** Oct 16, 2012, 02:53:13 PM »

I don't think you'll have any more issues with the dash interference!

Also, there is the core to be refunded, if you can't sell it otherwise, which would be worthwhile to return it

Update: I forgot to think that since your shift handle is modified, I'm not sure if we'd accept it as a core, since we need good, stock replacement cores. So please keep this in mind!

BigMike · « **Reply #20 on:** Oct 18, 2012, 05:45:11 PM »

I got another update today! Here is a picture of the complete kit to show what's included!

Pre-assembled MC Base, MC Heavy Duty Seat & Socket, Extended Toyota handle, Toyota boot, and Bolt Kit:

Toyota4WDMan · « **Reply #21 on:** Oct 19, 2012, 08:11:32 AM »

Is this kit designed for trucks with body lift ?

4RunnerChevy · « **Reply #22 on:** Oct 19, 2012, 04:30:22 PM »

Done this, when I had a w56. Worked great, its kind of not needed, but when you got it, feels really good.

GRW · « **Reply #23 on:** Oct 19, 2012, 06:27:48 PM »

It may not be needed on most trucks, but mine needed it due to the triple sticks.

I will try to post some pictures tomorrow.
Thanks for the help Mike.

GRW · « **Reply #24 on:** Oct 20, 2012, 06:16:05 AM »

Installed mine last night, was trying to upload some pictures but I got tired of trying to resize them.....
See if this works instead:
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/950721/fullsize/sht-through-base1.jpg
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/950720/fullsize/side-by-side-2.jpg
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/950719/fullsize/side-by-side.jpg
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/950718/fullsize/short-through-base--knob.jpg
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/950717/fullsize/shifters-side-by-side.jpg
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/950713/fullsize/old-shifter-through4.jpg
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/950712/fullsize/old-shifter-through3.jpg
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/950711/fullsize/old-shifter-though3.jpg
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/950707/fullsize/new-shifter-through2.jpg
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/950708/fullsize/new-shifter-through3.jpg
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/950704/fullsize/new-shifter-base.jpg
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/950699/fullsize/close-but-cleares.jpg

find out soon...... seems to work fine.
Not sure how long it took as I was helping my son break down an old wood project and pull the nails.
But it didn't take very long, shifter is crisp and alot less movement, what I needed due to the triple sticks.
My old shifter was in good shape and had new guts so it worked fine except hitting the t-case shifters.
In normal possition it would knock the t-case shift hard enough to possibly knock it out of gear.
So I reversed the shifter and brought the tip back to miss the dash.
I also had to sink the radio in the dash (about +/- 1/4") so the shifter did not change the stations or turn the volume up and down. It still tapped the edge of the dash and the t-case shifter, but it worked.
Now I have alot of room between the shifter and the dash and it misses the t-case shifters (not by much, but it does).

trip571 · « **Reply #25 on:** Oct 20, 2012, 11:43:47 PM »

I am going to jump in here, the kit looks GREAT!! I know the quality of parts as I used MC heavy duty parts to rebuild a W56.

I know your in R&D mode for the W transmissions. I am currently in NEED of a new shifter seat and socket for my W55 trans 93 2wd, as I am having to lift the shifter up to find gears but, I would prefer to grab the short shifter kit any idea on a time line for my trans?
Thanks

boomtacoma01 · « **Reply #26 on:** Oct 29, 2012, 01:12:01 PM »

I recieved mine in the mail last Friday. Should have it installed this week when I get my truck back into the garage.

BigMike · « **Reply #27 on:** Oct 29, 2012, 02:00:05 PM »

Quote from: boomtacoma01 on Oct 29, 2012, 01:12:01 PM

I recieved mine in the mail last Friday. Should have it installed this week when I get my truck back into the garage.

Awesome!!!

boomtacoma01 · « **Reply #28 on:** Oct 29, 2012, 02:52:56 PM »

Hopefully it helps with a clearance issue I am having with my tc shifter.

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BigMike · « **Reply #29 on:** Oct 31, 2012, 11:43:03 AM »

Okay guys,

I am busy working on the installation guide, which isn't done yet, but I do have these excellent comparison photos prepared. Also I won't be making any videos, rather I'll put together a few animated GIF images.

I also officially measured the difference in throw reduction and it is 40%

which for a standard height 6cyl handle (shown below) its 1-inch reduction per throw (2-inches reduction total)!

Comparison, Stock on left, MCI on right:

I should have the installer done next week. More to come soon!

Regards,
BigMike

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