Author Topic: Marlin Crawler 4th Annual KOH Thread (Feb 2010)  (Read 38936 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

BigMike

  • Administrator
  • Offline Gold Turtle Award
  • *
  • Turtle Points: 2124
  • Male Posts: 18,291
  • Member since Apr '02
  • 511:1 Club
    • View Profile
    • Bone-Stock Plane-Jane 1981 Shortbed Pickup
Marlin Crawler 4th Annual KOH Thread (Feb 2010)
« on: Dec 29, 2009, 09:04:10 AM »
Marlin Crawler is back at it for the 2010 King of the Hammers event, scheduled for Feb. 12th. Here is what's happening, all quotes are from our team driver John James (desertoy):

"Well, I have been working on the Marlin Crawler Formula Toy for the past few weeks getting it ready for KOH. We have been beating it pretty hard for the past 3 years and it has held up great. I take race prep serious because I hate breaking stuff and having to work on it during competitions. Basic race prep has worked for us so far, but with the new KOH rule book coming out for 2010 I needed to make some changes to the rig. While I was at it I decided to go ahead and move the motor back a few more inches to gain up travel in the front suspension for going fast but at the same time I have to keep it legal to compete in the Formula Toy class."

"Moving the motor back isn't that exciting, It's just alot of cutting and grinding. Here's a couple motor mount pictures."





"Once I got the motor back, That allowed the suspension to compress more. I was able to add 3 1/2" of additional up travel to the front suspension. that's huge when you take into consideration that up until now I only had 3 inches.

Here'as a couple pictures of the new bup stops."



"Once the motor was moved, the trans tunnel didn't work any more. So I took this oppertunity to cut out some of the heavy frame work over the trans and make a new transwmission tunnel."





"Once the trans tunnel was mounted I made a paper template to get the shifter cover plate just right. It turned out pretty good."






"all the expanded metal behind the seats have been bothering me for a while now, so I thought I might as well cut that out too."




"I needed to make a fire wall behind the drivers seat but I was worried that a big piece of aluminum would rattle (I hate that), so I decided to make it 3 pieces to fit between the X-brace.
I stared with a paper template. Rob Park (TinBender) showed me an easy way to make a template a few years back. All you do is tape the paper in place and rub the side of a sharpy on the paper along the tube you want to cut around. By rubbing the side of the sharpy on the paper, it makes a mark on the paper where the tube is."




"then I just cut the paper out 1/2 inch inside the line so it fits inside the tubing and traced it onto a piece of aluminum. "




"When I cut out the aluminum with the plasma cutter, I use a piece of square tubing as a straight edge, this makes the plasma cut almost perfect.
I put a bend in the bottom of the aluminum to make it stiffer and it fit great."





"Then I did the same thing to the other 2 panels. I had to make 6 small radius bends on the side panels to make them form the top tube."





"New KOH Rules. You have to have a fire wall to seperate the fuel tank from the drivers compartment. "

"The wheelbase is about 106, the motor is moved back 8", my rear driveshaft angle is good because I run a L52HD trans (6" shorter)."

"According to the rally tracker, we got up to a bone chilling 68mph accross the drylake last year."

"I got my tail lights yesterday. So I decided to make a tail light box to mount them on the top of the rig."




"Even though I only needed one amber light in the rear, I decided to install 2 of them to make it look better. Also, if I end up running a Best in the Desert race later, I can replace on of the amber lights with a blue one."



"I've been working my butt off but it doesn't look like I have done anything lately.
I sent the transmission ans transfer cases back to Marlin Crawler just so they can take a look at them. It's been a while since they have been inspected so I thought it was time.
I got them back and installed them over the weekend."




"Bobby and Tina Long were nice enough to send a set of the best birfields in the world so I thought it was time to install them."



"Since we've been doing this new KOH type "go fast" racing, wheel bearings and knuckle bearings need to be looked at more often. So I completely disassembled the knuckles, cleaned everything, inspected the bearings, and re-assambled with the new longfields."



"Once I got the front end back together (it took forever), I went on to the new springs. the 4" springs worked just fine for cone dodging but a new set of 5" springs will work better for KOH.

after looking at the shackles, I decided to put on a new set along with new bushings all around.

U-bolts are a consubable maintenance item in my opinion. I replace them every year weather it needs it or not. Brian from Diamond Axle was glad to send a set over."





"Mapping out the new fuel system without waisting a bunch of money on extra fittings was a challenge."



"The plan is to install an accumulator tank with a single feeder pump and dual high pressure pumps (one for a back up).
I found a piece of 4" x 1/4" aluminum tubing to build the tank out of and bought all the weld in bungs fron Summit. The problem is, I don't have a tig welder at home. Luckely one of my welders at work was willing to help. I had him weld everything up except the top cap so I could fit everyting and then clean the accumulator tank real well before he did the final welding. I was worried about contamination getting in the accumulator tank durring assembly, that is why I did it this way."







"I have been running a set of chromo birfields that Marlin Crawlers sells for the past couple years. But we're back to Longfields now.

The trans was fine. Marlin did some more upgrades to it while he had it though. These L-52HD tranny's are BAD ASS!"
« Last Edit: Feb 20, 2012, 11:43:04 AM by BigMike »
Check out our new Rock Crawling Videos!
2016 56-speed 580:1 Tacoma Rock Crawler   
1981 36-speed 511:1 3RZ-FE Rock Crawler
1987 6-speed Supercharged 4A-GZE MR2
Instagram: @SlowestTacoma
Things are only impossible until they are not.
"The worst of both worlds, the best of neither." -abnormaltoy
"An informed question. But difficult to answer. I am what you see." -Nanaki

jrock

  • Offline Silver Turtle Award
  • *
  • Turtle Points: 77
  • Male Posts: 3,395
  • Member since Oct '06
  • Oodelally
    • View Profile
Re: Marlin Crawler F-Toy: 2010 KOH Prep
« Reply #1 on: Dec 29, 2009, 09:37:10 AM »
 :eye: :eye:

Joey88RUNR

  • Offline The 1K Club
  • *
  • Turtle Points: -23
  • Male Posts: 1,057
  • Member since Feb '08
    • View Profile
Re: Marlin Crawler F-Toy: 2010 KOH Prep
« Reply #2 on: Dec 29, 2009, 08:20:56 PM »
I Hope to see this thing at the race....I took the days off :crossed:
SaS'd Dual ultimate crawler w/5.29s Aussie front/detriot Rear, 35's Mtr's with kevlar

twistedtoy92

  • Offline Silver Turtle Award
  • *
  • Turtle Points: -255
  • Male Posts: 3,781
  • Member since Dec '06
  • NFM Customs
    • View Profile
Re: Marlin Crawler F-Toy: 2010 KOH Prep
« Reply #3 on: Dec 29, 2009, 08:33:04 PM »
Lookin GOOD!
2005 Audi A4 2.0T Quattro 380 AWHP @ 24psi
1993 Toyota Pickup http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=72886.msg866982#msg866982
1992 Toyota Pickup http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=49319.msg616251#msg616251
1985 4runner http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=60737.msg745263#msg745263

"TRIPLE CASES GETS YOU LAID." -BigMike

"I daily drive this thang everyday." (swapped89)

CrazyYota

  • Offline The 1K Club
  • *
  • Turtle Points: 92
  • Male Posts: 1,073
  • Member since Oct '05
  • Crawling with Marlin
    • View Profile
Re: Marlin Crawler F-Toy: 2010 KOH Prep
« Reply #4 on: Dec 29, 2009, 09:16:43 PM »


Is the custom shifter base for the L52 a short throw shifter? I need to fix that on my L52.
>Chuck Norris invented black. In fact, he invented the entire spectrum of visible light. Except pink. Tom Cruise invented pink.

BigMike [OP]

  • Administrator
  • Offline Gold Turtle Award
  • *
  • Turtle Points: 2124
  • Male Posts: 18,291
  • Member since Apr '02
  • 511:1 Club
    • View Profile
    • Bone-Stock Plane-Jane 1981 Shortbed Pickup
Re: Marlin Crawler F-Toy: 2010 KOH Prep
« Reply #5 on: Dec 30, 2009, 08:09:38 AM »
We actually have been selling L-series USA-made billet aluminum short throw shifters for probably 3 or 4 years now, we've just never updated our short throw listing on our website. We have short throw kits for almost every Hilux and Tacoma transmission. They will be going up pretty soon though as a lot has been changing down here. I should be getting a lot more time to work on the website very soon (we've neglected it worse than a red headed step child).

Mike
Check out our new Rock Crawling Videos!
2016 56-speed 580:1 Tacoma Rock Crawler   
1981 36-speed 511:1 3RZ-FE Rock Crawler
1987 6-speed Supercharged 4A-GZE MR2
Instagram: @SlowestTacoma
Things are only impossible until they are not.
"The worst of both worlds, the best of neither." -abnormaltoy
"An informed question. But difficult to answer. I am what you see." -Nanaki

CrazyYota

  • Offline The 1K Club
  • *
  • Turtle Points: 92
  • Male Posts: 1,073
  • Member since Oct '05
  • Crawling with Marlin
    • View Profile
Re: Marlin Crawler F-Toy: 2010 KOH Prep
« Reply #6 on: Dec 30, 2009, 09:10:15 AM »
Sweet! :biggthumpup:
>Chuck Norris invented black. In fact, he invented the entire spectrum of visible light. Except pink. Tom Cruise invented pink.

twistedtoy92

  • Offline Silver Turtle Award
  • *
  • Turtle Points: -255
  • Male Posts: 3,781
  • Member since Dec '06
  • NFM Customs
    • View Profile
Re: Marlin Crawler F-Toy: 2010 KOH Prep
« Reply #7 on: Jan 01, 2010, 02:03:19 PM »
Thatd be nice to see more selection on here   :psss:

2005 Audi A4 2.0T Quattro 380 AWHP @ 24psi
1993 Toyota Pickup http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=72886.msg866982#msg866982
1992 Toyota Pickup http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=49319.msg616251#msg616251
1985 4runner http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=60737.msg745263#msg745263

"TRIPLE CASES GETS YOU LAID." -BigMike

"I daily drive this thang everyday." (swapped89)

CrazyYota

  • Offline The 1K Club
  • *
  • Turtle Points: 92
  • Male Posts: 1,073
  • Member since Oct '05
  • Crawling with Marlin
    • View Profile
Re: Marlin Crawler F-Toy: 2010 KOH Prep
« Reply #8 on: Jan 01, 2010, 07:03:35 PM »
Thatd be nice to see more selection on here   :psss:



X2   :attention:
>Chuck Norris invented black. In fact, he invented the entire spectrum of visible light. Except pink. Tom Cruise invented pink.

Rocksurfer

  • Momentum Man
  • Offline Gold Turtle Award
  • *
  • Turtle Points: 759
  • Male Posts: 13,855
  • Member since Jul '04
  • Lego Enforcement
    • View Profile
    • Spinnin4s 4x4 Club
Re: Marlin Crawler F-Toy: 2010 KOH Prep
« Reply #9 on: Jan 03, 2010, 02:02:19 PM »
 :biggthumpup: Go get 'em Turtle, it's going to be an excellent race. Was out there this weekend. :shhh:
The Ghost-Rider/Ghost Runner

No matter how far you fall, the ground will always catch you

ghettowheeler

  • Offline Dusty Trails
  • *
  • Turtle Points: 0
  • Posts: 4
  • Member since Dec '09
    • View Profile
Re: Marlin Crawler F-Toy: 2010 KOH Prep
« Reply #10 on: Jan 12, 2010, 01:40:11 PM »
That would be awesome if a ftoy took #1 at KOH.  Doin more with less!!!  Good luck guys.

YotaChris

  • Offline Rock Master
  • ***
  • Turtle Points: 47
  • Male Posts: 274
  • Member since Jan '04
  • Crawling with Marlin
    • View Profile
Re: Marlin Crawler F-Toy: 2010 KOH Prep
« Reply #11 on: Jan 20, 2010, 10:50:22 PM »
Is there any benefit to running the L-52 versus a W-56??
I LOVE MY YOTAS!!

BigMike [OP]

  • Administrator
  • Offline Gold Turtle Award
  • *
  • Turtle Points: 2124
  • Male Posts: 18,291
  • Member since Apr '02
  • 511:1 Club
    • View Profile
    • Bone-Stock Plane-Jane 1981 Shortbed Pickup
Re: Marlin Crawler F-Toy: 2010 KOH Prep
« Reply #12 on: Jan 21, 2010, 11:37:45 AM »
The W56 is a bit lighter, is much stronger than a stock L52, a little bit stronger than a Marlin Crawler L52-HD, but the L-series transmission is 4" shorter. So we can move the engine back and still have a decent rear driveline angle.
Check out our new Rock Crawling Videos!
2016 56-speed 580:1 Tacoma Rock Crawler   
1981 36-speed 511:1 3RZ-FE Rock Crawler
1987 6-speed Supercharged 4A-GZE MR2
Instagram: @SlowestTacoma
Things are only impossible until they are not.
"The worst of both worlds, the best of neither." -abnormaltoy
"An informed question. But difficult to answer. I am what you see." -Nanaki

YotaChris

  • Offline Rock Master
  • ***
  • Turtle Points: 47
  • Male Posts: 274
  • Member since Jan '04
  • Crawling with Marlin
    • View Profile
Re: Marlin Crawler F-Toy: 2010 KOH Prep
« Reply #13 on: Jan 25, 2010, 07:32:47 AM »
Gotcha,  :thumbs: Thanks for the info!
I LOVE MY YOTAS!!

BigMike [OP]

  • Administrator
  • Offline Gold Turtle Award
  • *
  • Turtle Points: 2124
  • Male Posts: 18,291
  • Member since Apr '02
  • 511:1 Club
    • View Profile
    • Bone-Stock Plane-Jane 1981 Shortbed Pickup
Re: Marlin Crawler F-Toy: 2010 KOH Prep
« Reply #14 on: Jan 29, 2010, 12:48:12 PM »
More updates from desertoy!!

"OK, we're about ready. I just have a couple more things I am waiting for like the seat belts and nets.

All of the aluminum is finally done. Hopefully it will go to Impact Signs in Victorville this week to have all the panels re-wrapped."





"Here's the fire wall"



"Fuel system is done. It works great with the exception of a minor fuel leak from the threads of one of the fittings."



"The seats were getting pretty tattered looking after 4 years so I had PRP re-cover them for us."



"I re-mounted the radio to the roof. Mike installed the GPS. I should have the in-car communications from Mobile Radio Communications by the end of the week."



"We took it out and did some shock tuning on Sunday. The front shocks are pretty close, We ended up making new shock mounts in the front. I need to get with Chris from FOA to get some more valving discs for the rear. Overall, moving the motor back to gain suspension travel in the front was well worth it. It is noticeably smoother in the front. We just need to stiffen up the compression in the rear."



"I took the rig to Impact Signs this morning to get the sponsorship stickers (wrap) put on. I'm getting closer. All I have to do now is get the inter-com from Mobile Radio Communications installed.

Jeff rKnoll made me build a hood scoop to cover the air cleaner and intake. Here you go Jeff."

Check out our new Rock Crawling Videos!
2016 56-speed 580:1 Tacoma Rock Crawler   
1981 36-speed 511:1 3RZ-FE Rock Crawler
1987 6-speed Supercharged 4A-GZE MR2
Instagram: @SlowestTacoma
Things are only impossible until they are not.
"The worst of both worlds, the best of neither." -abnormaltoy
"An informed question. But difficult to answer. I am what you see." -Nanaki

Goldrush

  • Offline The 1K Club
  • *
  • Turtle Points: 145
  • Male Posts: 1,381
  • Member since Jan '10
  • wheelin!!
    • View Profile
Re: Marlin Crawler F-Toy: 2010 KOH Prep
« Reply #15 on: Jan 29, 2010, 12:56:10 PM »
 :thumbs:looks pretty sick man! :thumbs: :yesnod:
-Zack- aka uncle Zack!                GOT MARLIN?

_______________________________________________
|___[||||||||||][|||T O Y O T A|||][||||||||||]____|
|___[||||||||||][|||||||||][|||||||||][||||||||||]____|

Slolyfe

  • Offline The 2K Group
  • ***
  • Turtle Points: -117
  • Male Posts: 2,048
  • Member since Aug '07
  • Heyo
    • View Profile
Re: Marlin Crawler F-Toy: 2010 KOH Prep
« Reply #16 on: Jan 29, 2010, 02:57:34 PM »
Sick! Cant wait to see this thing in action!!!  9 Days!!!!!!!!
You'll never take me alive

- Sales Employee -

freds40

  • Offline The 2K Group
  • ***
  • Turtle Points: 293
  • Male Posts: 2,331
  • Member since Dec '02
    • View Profile
Re: Marlin Crawler F-Toy: 2010 KOH Prep
« Reply #17 on: Jan 29, 2010, 05:20:18 PM »
Starting #42 we at the shop are definitely hoping for a strong finish.
"between projects"

Forfunner

  • Offline Rock Crawl'n
  • **
  • Turtle Points: 0
  • Posts: 33
  • Member since Feb '09
    • View Profile
Re: Marlin Crawler F-Toy: 2010 KOH Prep
« Reply #18 on: Jan 31, 2010, 01:19:16 AM »
Is there going to be a Marlin booth so i can pick up some parts?

Bobby Hunter

  • Offline Rock Master
  • ***
  • Turtle Points: 53
  • Male Posts: 206
  • Member since Sep '09
  • Bobby Hunter
    • View Profile
Re: Marlin Crawler F-Toy: 2010 KOH Prep
« Reply #19 on: Feb 02, 2010, 09:17:41 AM »
wait he said "sent the tranns and t-case off" do ya'll not store it at the shop?
Tech head for 2nd gen Runners

87pickup

  • Offline Crawler Guru
  • ****
  • Turtle Points: 33
  • Male Posts: 719
  • Member since Jul '07
    • View Profile
Re: Marlin Crawler F-Toy: 2010 KOH Prep
« Reply #20 on: Feb 02, 2010, 09:21:07 AM »
After raising the bumpstops and gaining up travel are the springs going negative arch when fully compressed? I wantr more up travel and have the room but i think my 4" Marlin springs will go negative arch if i do.

Phazertwo

  • Offline 4WD Legend
  • *****
  • Turtle Points: 8
  • Male Posts: 812
  • Member since Aug '05
  • So many yoda's, so little time!
    • View Profile
Re: Marlin Crawler F-Toy: 2010 KOH Prep
« Reply #21 on: Feb 03, 2010, 09:05:52 PM »
I don't he is worried about them going negative.  Its worth it to ruin a set of springs when you are racing / comp crawling.  For weekend warriors like most of us, we don't have the $$$ to buy a new set of springs every year...

PZ
92 xtra cab, with some stuff...

...why buy when you can build?

BigMike [OP]

  • Administrator
  • Offline Gold Turtle Award
  • *
  • Turtle Points: 2124
  • Male Posts: 18,291
  • Member since Apr '02
  • 511:1 Club
    • View Profile
    • Bone-Stock Plane-Jane 1981 Shortbed Pickup
Re: Marlin Crawler F-Toy: 2010 KOH Prep
« Reply #22 on: Feb 05, 2010, 08:05:07 AM »
Got some more updates!

"Well, I think it's ready. I had a guy come by this weekend and take some pictures of it (Thanks Jan)."







Check out our new Rock Crawling Videos!
2016 56-speed 580:1 Tacoma Rock Crawler   
1981 36-speed 511:1 3RZ-FE Rock Crawler
1987 6-speed Supercharged 4A-GZE MR2
Instagram: @SlowestTacoma
Things are only impossible until they are not.
"The worst of both worlds, the best of neither." -abnormaltoy
"An informed question. But difficult to answer. I am what you see." -Nanaki

TacoRunner

  • Offline The 2K Group
  • ***
  • Turtle Points: 19177
  • Male Posts: 2,324
  • Member since Feb '04
  • The 1st 3RZ swap 99'-01'
    • View Profile
    • 4wheelunderground
www.4WHEELUNDERGROUND.com
info@4wheelunderground.com
AKA The GODFATHER The 3RZ Original

Performance Tuned shocks for Leaf Sprung Vehicles   http://www.4wheelunderground.com/Tuning.html

87pickup

  • Offline Crawler Guru
  • ****
  • Turtle Points: 33
  • Male Posts: 719
  • Member since Jul '07
    • View Profile
Re: Marlin Crawler F-Toy: 2010 KOH Prep
« Reply #24 on: Feb 05, 2010, 08:33:05 AM »
I don't he is worried about them going negative.  Its worth it to ruin a set of springs when you are racing / comp crawling.  For weekend warriors like most of us, we don't have the $$$ to buy a new set of springs every year...

PZ

Im just qurious if his are going negative, i wouldnt mind having to replace springs more often if thats what it takes, i just hate slamming down on my bumpstops when bombing down the fire roads to the trails.

TacoRunner

  • Offline The 2K Group
  • ***
  • Turtle Points: 19177
  • Male Posts: 2,324
  • Member since Feb '04
  • The 1st 3RZ swap 99'-01'
    • View Profile
    • 4wheelunderground
Re: Marlin Crawler F-Toy: 2010 KOH Prep
« Reply #25 on: Feb 05, 2010, 08:37:16 AM »
You would bennefit from either or both, a good set of air bumps and or shocks with more compression damping.
www.4WHEELUNDERGROUND.com
info@4wheelunderground.com
AKA The GODFATHER The 3RZ Original

Performance Tuned shocks for Leaf Sprung Vehicles   http://www.4wheelunderground.com/Tuning.html

YotaChris

  • Offline Rock Master
  • ***
  • Turtle Points: 47
  • Male Posts: 274
  • Member since Jan '04
  • Crawling with Marlin
    • View Profile
Re: Marlin Crawler F-Toy: 2010 KOH Prep
« Reply #26 on: Feb 05, 2010, 07:32:03 PM »



Those don't look like the stock splines in your front case... Are you running 4.7's in your both your cases??
I LOVE MY YOTAS!!

GJToyotabug

  • Offline 4WD Legend
  • *****
  • Turtle Points: 0
  • Male Posts: 969
  • Member since Jan '08
  • The bug is deep in this one
    • View Profile
    • Alcan Spring
Re: Marlin Crawler F-Toy: 2010 KOH Prep
« Reply #27 on: Feb 05, 2010, 09:48:05 PM »
who says stock gear ratio has to be stock spline :gap:

YotaChris

  • Offline Rock Master
  • ***
  • Turtle Points: 47
  • Male Posts: 274
  • Member since Jan '04
  • Crawling with Marlin
    • View Profile
Re: Marlin Crawler F-Toy: 2010 KOH Prep
« Reply #28 on: Feb 06, 2010, 02:43:30 AM »
 :hammer: That's a good point.. However is he running 4.7's in both cases? I'm thinking about doing it on my rig but I'm not really sure if it'll be worth it..
I LOVE MY YOTAS!!

REG535

  • Offline The 1K Club
  • *
  • Turtle Points: -287
  • Male Posts: 1,083
  • Member since Jul '07
  • Shes traveling to many celestial worlds
    • View Profile
    • Buy me a cigar
Re: Marlin Crawler F-Toy: 2010 KOH Prep
« Reply #29 on: Feb 07, 2010, 01:35:46 AM »
Good LUck guys. I wish I could be there watching this race. I want to race one day lol.
85 Marble' Black and White (x-cab)
84 RedTurtle' Red with White Top added Marlin Turtle Shift Knob (All Stock) :silly:


 
 
 
 
 

Related Topics

24 Replies
17571 Views
Last post Dec 29, 2009, 09:05:14 AM
by BigMike
55 Replies
30526 Views
Last post Feb 17, 2011, 09:30:01 PM
by spoolnaround
31 Replies
21786 Views
Last post Feb 13, 2013, 11:18:07 AM
by BigMike
74 Replies
28167 Views
Last post Feb 20, 2013, 12:34:04 PM
by BigMike
10 Replies
3093 Views
Last post Feb 17, 2020, 07:28:31 AM
by :)bestgen4runner