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Author Topic: We test Marlin Crawler's HREW vs. Competitor's DOM Bumper Steel  (Read 87646 times)

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Right on!!!

People need to realize that when one object collides with another, physics say that something MUST absorb the energy of that impact!!  In the case of a bumper attached to the frame of a truck,  it's the bumper's job to absorb that energy, if the bumper is so strong that it does not absorb the energy, it will transmit that energy to it's mounting point (your frame) and then guess what happens... that's right your frame absorbs that energy and gets bent up.  Of the three things that can get messed up from an impact (bumper - body - frame) I'd much rather the bumper give some, even to the point of rubbing the body, than my frame giving, because, and trust me on this one, when the frame gives, it's taking some body with it too, and then you wind up with a bumper that held up, but now you have frame AND body to fix.  All because you wanted a bumper that would not bend under any circumstances.

In summary, a really strong bumper is great, but it still needs to bend if it takes a hard enough lick.

Good post. I have a Marlin rear bumper on my 4runner. I run 35s. I drag ass a lot. Especially considering all my wheeling buddies run tires from 37s to 49s, I have to follow them through some wicked stuff, and off some big drop offs. I have slammed my rear end so hard that I was sure my bumper would be bent. Same goes for my sliders. They still look :boobs:

And that happens pretty much every time I hit the trail. I'm not saying they're invincible because nothing is, but I'm not worried about mine. I would love to know the specifics on how that bumper got dented so I can remember that for the future. So far my Marlin armor has more than proved itself worthy. My rig is still pretty clean sliders up. :gap:
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Cody's bumper in the above picture did not take a "impact" hit, He was just hung up on it. I would know because I was standing 2' from his runner when it happened. We didn't even notice until later that day. Especially since the bumper has a "tow package" built in it REALLY needs a couple center supports going to at least the stock spare tire carrier crossmember if not to something beefier.
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factory bumper towing on a toyota sized truck is around 3500, my trailer hitch is rated at 5500
Dr.Maxwe001 well i have a 15 gal compressor now and if I gett he 60  and then use the 15 as a reserve that wil give me 75 gal  thats close to 80 isnt it ?

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factory bumper towing on a toyota sized truck is around 3500, my trailer hitch is rated at 5500

 :whythis:

What does that have to do with anything in this discussion?
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Someone said earlier that it needs to be beefed up for towing since it bent. I was trying to point out that in reality it doesnt take a lot of material to tow something. But it takes a lot to survive a big impact.
Dr.Maxwe001 well i have a 15 gal compressor now and if I gett he 60  and then use the 15 as a reserve that wil give me 75 gal  thats close to 80 isnt it ?

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Cody's bumper in the above picture did not take a "impact" hit, He was just hung up on it. I would know because I was standing 2' from his runner when it happened. We didn't even notice until later that day. Especially since the bumper has a "tow package" built in it REALLY needs a couple center supports going to at least the stock spare tire carrier crossmember if not to something beefier.
it wasnt really all that impressive of a thing when it happend, you would think by the way it looks it would have been a "holy (poo)" moment, but i really didnt think anything of it, then when i saw it later i was suprised i did that much damage with what seemed to be such little of an impact. im hoping to flip it and try to bend it back a little so atleast the tailgate doesnt hang up on it. then i think im going to reinforce it a little more than what it is.
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it wasnt really all that impressive of a thing when it happend, you would think by the way it looks it would have been a "holy (poo)" moment, but i really didnt think anything of it, then when i saw it later i was suprised i did that much damage with what seemed to be such little of an impact. im hoping to flip it and try to bend it back a little so atleast the tailgate doesnt hang up on it. then i think im going to reinforce it a little more than what it is.
Cody's bumper in the above picture did not take a "impact" hit, He was just hung up on it. I would know because I was standing 2' from his runner when it happened. We didn't even notice until later that day. Especially since the bumper has a "tow package" built in it REALLY needs a couple center supports going to at least the stock spare tire carrier crossmember if not to something beefier.

Thanks for the input gentlemen. Definitely helps prove my point and this thread got real quite all of a sudden.
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Thanks for the input gentlemen. Definitely helps prove my point and this thread got real quite all of a sudden.

If I tweak it, I'll tweak it. I'm not worried though. It would be worth it to me to buy another one if mine gets bent. Saved my body more times than I can remember.
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cody lets heat it up with my tourch and chain it to a tree and pull out the dent and then we can support the center of the bumper :dunno:
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cody lets heat it up with my tourch and chain it to a tree and pull out the dent and then we can support the center of the bumper :dunno:
that might work, supporting the center is going to happen for sure
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You will weaken the steel when you heat.
Dr.Maxwe001 well i have a 15 gal compressor now and if I gett he 60  and then use the 15 as a reserve that wil give me 75 gal  thats close to 80 isnt it ?

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as opposed to leaving it that way ???
MY ONLY REGRET IS THAT I HAVE NOTHING USEFUL TO OFFER THIS FORUM  :moon:
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You will weaken the steel when you heat.

Holy  :censored:, we've got a genius here!!!

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as opposed to leaving it that way ???

bend it back cold
Dr.Maxwe001 well i have a 15 gal compressor now and if I gett he 60  and then use the 15 as a reserve that wil give me 75 gal  thats close to 80 isnt it ?

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bend it back cold

Have someone build a legit bumper.
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Bending it back cold will not weaken it from annealing it. And it will make it harder to rebend it.
Dr.Maxwe001 well i have a 15 gal compressor now and if I gett he 60  and then use the 15 as a reserve that wil give me 75 gal  thats close to 80 isnt it ?

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try bending this back
http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=73135.new#new
i was just gonna flip it and use a hi-lift to get it as close as i could, then weld some more supports in
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Bending it back cold will not weaken it from annealing it. And it will make it harder to rebend it.

well then I will give it an oil bath after we straighten it out, that should get it back to somewhat normal....:disturbed:
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try bending this back
http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=73135.new#new
i was just gonna flip it and use a hi-lift to get it as close as i could, then weld some more supports in

Hot or cold you can never bend that back, it will be kinked or flattened from the first bend and simple rebend at that point. CUt and weld in new pieces of tubing.
Dr.Maxwe001 well i have a 15 gal compressor now and if I gett he 60  and then use the 15 as a reserve that wil give me 75 gal  thats close to 80 isnt it ?

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just got to get it back so the tailgate opens like its supposed to
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Id get some tubing, cut out the bend section and weld in new tubing, easier and faster.
Dr.Maxwe001 well i have a 15 gal compressor now and if I gett he 60  and then use the 15 as a reserve that wil give me 75 gal  thats close to 80 isnt it ?

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Id get some tubing, cut out the bend section and weld in new tubing, easier and faster.
I have to agree on this ONE THING :rofl2: with Jerry,  unless you dont care how it looks then i'd tie it to a bridge or an 18 wheeler put it in 4 low and drive forward :thumbs:
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And break something in the process... probably easier to do like jerry said, then you can overbuild it like it should have been in the first place  ;)
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You're all thinking too much. bend it back a make it stronger. If it breaks while bending it back scrap the whole bumper and build or buy a new stronger one.

I wanna get this straight since nobody else has said it. I am not trying to diss on MC. Every company makes a few things that aren't worth a damn and this happens to be their product. If I bought this bumper I would add bracing to it before I even wheeled with it on my rig. I know I would taco the whole bumper beyond repair probably the first run out.
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The kinks in the tubing can not be bent back out.
Dr.Maxwe001 well i have a 15 gal compressor now and if I gett he 60  and then use the 15 as a reserve that wil give me 75 gal  thats close to 80 isnt it ?

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The kinks in the tubing can not be bent back out.

Quit stating the obvious! I know there's a lot of dumb ass people on this board but we know a few more things than you think...

Brock isn't a dumbass, He will try to bend it back and if it doens't get straight enough for him he will deal with it.
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The kinks in the tubing can not be bent back out.

Holy :pokinit:. Did you eat paint chips as a child?
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I ate pait chips as a kid so what
He/we will fix the bumper and it will be fine so everybody breathe in ......count to ten....wait Jerry keep it in till you see the light...... :slap:
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Brock isn't a dumbass, He will try to bend it back and if it doens't get straight enough for him he will deal with it.

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He/we will fix the bumper and it will be fine so everybody breathe in ......count to ten....wait Jerry keep it in till you see the light...... :slap:

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
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