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Heater fan switch melt down
« on: Jan 02, 2009, 07:11:11 PM »
I have a 93 pick up that I had no speed number 3 on the fan switch since I bought it. I wasn't to worried about it since all the other speeds worked.

We had an ice storm and in the morning I turned the truck on and left the heater on and fan on high for 30 minutes and shut it off. The next time I got in the truck the fan was stuck on high and I couldn't move the switch at all. So I took it apart and the switch had melted. I have a switch on the way but before I install the new switch I want to make sure it wasn't something else that cause the melt down.

Did the switch just go bad or is there something else that cause the switch to melt?

If you look at the picture there are two terminals that were cooked and whole inside of one of the copper bar was totally gone. I'm guessing each bar and terminal represents a different fan speed.

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Re: Heater fan switch melt down
« Reply #1 on: Jan 02, 2009, 08:47:10 PM »
I have had the same problem. At first, I just replaced the switch, and in a short time, it burned up, too. While looking at it the second time, I noticed that a wire in the wiring harness inside the dash was also burned. I did not get far enough into it before I replaced the truck, so, I do not know if the burned wire was the cause, or if it was a result. I would have a look, though, because if the wiring is shorting, it could cause more vital functions to go haywire at the wrong time. You would really have to do a continuity check and short test with all of the wires in that plug. Also, check the resistor for the fan.
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Re: Heater fan switch melt down
« Reply #2 on: Jan 02, 2009, 08:50:45 PM »
Shouldn't get hot and shouldn't melt, could be a short in the switch but I'd make sure it isn't coming from the wires or the fan itself before you fry another one.
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Re: Heater fan switch melt down
« Reply #3 on: Jan 03, 2009, 08:14:50 AM »
I received the replacement switch. All speeds 1-2-3-4 work. I did notice on the replacemnt  ( used) that the same location showed some burning (speded 4) so I don't know if this is common. Speed 3 and 4 are still getting hot, I don't know how hot or warm these are supposed to get, I didn't let it get to hot. Speeds 1 and 2 seem to be fine.

So I'm guessing there might be a resistor problem on speeds 3 and 4 or a short somewhere. Can anyone tell me where to find the resistors at the fan? I have a testor, I'm guessing I'm looking for continuity (ground and terminal?)at the plug?

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Re: Heater fan switch melt down
« Reply #4 on: Jan 03, 2009, 09:57:08 AM »
huh.  I actually had the same problem as well.  Went to PnP and pulled a switch out of a corrolla if I recall correctly.  When I pulled mine apart, I discovered that the plug wasn't all the way in the switch, and the plug had a little heat damage as well.  I made sure the new one was plugged in all the way, and its been fine for the last 3 years.
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Re: Heater fan switch melt down
« Reply #5 on: Jan 03, 2009, 10:40:08 AM »
I went out and did a longer test on the switch. I beleive it's just the heat generated though the switch at certain speeds because of the amount of electrical current at higher speeds. I come to this conclusion because it seems that others have had this problem and I have two switches that show signs of over heating. With the switch up tight against the rest of the controls, there is no room for any type of air flow to help cool the switch. It might just be one of those thing overlooked in manufacturing.

Speeds 1 and 2 didn't get warm at all, speed 3 warmed up a little and speed 4 was the hottest but never was hot enough to melt. I got a temp of 120* to 135* at the hottest, I used a infered mini temp gauge.

I beleive that when I left the fan on high for a long period to get the ice to melt, it may have been too long and the switch. In reality I don't think anyone would never leave the heater on high for that long while driving as heating up that little cab isn't a problem.

I'm probably going to install and keep in mind only to use high speed when nessary for short period.

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Re: Heater fan switch melt down
« Reply #6 on: Jan 03, 2009, 04:52:27 PM »
I have had a couple of 2nd gens and always had problems with the switches. One I think a couple of the speeds didn't work. Took it apart and nothing was out of the ordinary. On my 85 now, I only have 3 and 4 speeds. Which is fine cause my trucks windows won't defrost for poop.

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Re: Heater fan switch melt down
« Reply #7 on: Jan 04, 2009, 05:13:04 PM »
I run mine all day long when snow wheeling on high without a problem. Why you ask, I have half doors and to lazy to change them to my full doors.
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