Author Topic: 22r to 22RE conversion (Read 16735 times)

DeMented Toys · « **on:** Aug 03, 2004, 05:39:27 AM »

I am building an 83 toy. I recently had to retire the stock 22r engine. The replacement engine I picked up is a 22RE. The truck is set up for a 22R. The 22RE that I got is complete with intake, ect. Anyone know where I can get an EFI kit to run the 22RE in the truck? Or could I swap the intakes and run the original carburator? The carb wasn't in the best shape to start with and needed rebuilt or replaced... I was going to go with a Weber carb before I got the 22RE...

kyle_22r · « **Reply #1 on:** Aug 03, 2004, 04:52:07 PM »

if you want to go back to a carb, just unbolt the intake from the head and bolt the carb intake up.

you'll probably have to do some work to rig up a wiring harness for the EFI to work. i've decided that the route i'm going to take is to just run an aftermarket, fuel only EFI setup and step up from my 20R to a 22RE. this would allow me to get rid of the problematic AFM and just use a map sensor

Mike D · « **Reply #2 on:** Aug 03, 2004, 11:24:27 PM »

yeah the 22r to22re conversion would not be cheap. cause you would have to buy the ecu a fuel pump do some wiring and hook up the efi relay but it is better than the carbs expescially if yours was not really any good. You also get a few extra ponies.

DeMented Toys · « **Reply #3 on:** Aug 04, 2004, 05:47:18 AM »

The EFI setup from LC Engineering will cost me at least a grand... I am thinking of just swapping intakes and buying a new weber performance carb... Anyone had experience with the weber toyota carbs?

Mike D · « **Reply #4 on:** Aug 04, 2004, 11:47:05 AM »

weber or holly are great most of my friends run holly carbs but webers are just the same.

CrabDiggs · « **Reply #5 on:** Aug 04, 2004, 03:52:35 PM »

It's all about the EFI, it may be a pain in the butt to do the conversion, but when your gettin with it, the last thing you wanna hear is put, put, put.

kyle_22r · « **Reply #6 on:** Aug 04, 2004, 08:15:30 PM »

doesn't look hard to do, especially if you find an '83-84 celica with analog EFI. much simpler than later versions. individual components are expensive, but usually can be had cheaply in a package deal

i have a weber 32/36 on my 20R. it actually has a smaller CFM rating than a 22R carb, but much higher than a 20R carb. knowing this, i think it would be a better idea to use a weber 38 on a 22R application. i don't have any complaints from my carb(other than it's a manual choke

), but it would be nicer if the rest of my engine was in good shape

DeMented Toys · « **Reply #7 on:** Aug 14, 2004, 11:38:58 AM »

After much deliberation, I think I am going to swap out the intake and go with a weber carb. At this point it seems to be the simpler and less expensive option...

WHITE_TRASH · « **Reply #8 on:** Aug 14, 2004, 11:44:40 AM »

Yup its a lot of work to do the conversion. Wanna buy a weber? :eyebrows:

To The Floor · « **Reply #9 on:** Aug 14, 2004, 12:32:44 PM »

Go to ebay and buy the Weber 38mm outlaw carb. There's a company called John's foreign engines that sells em on ebay. Complete kit is $450

DeMented Toys · « **Reply #10 on:** Aug 19, 2004, 09:24:37 AM »

I have decided to go with a 38mm Weber carb kit from Downey Off-Road.

Makohon · « **Reply #11 on:** Sep 08, 2004, 08:27:07 PM »

ever consider going propane? im thinking about it... ur engine lasts longer, more power, and will always pass smog. check it out at gotpropane.com then you wont have to worry about all these dam electrical connections/computers.... engine wont bog out.... engine never has to adjust itself when going to a high altitude area etc....

Mike D · « **Reply #12 on:** Sep 08, 2004, 09:09:03 PM »

well what if there is no propane tank nerby... you get stranded.

Makohon · « **Reply #13 on:** Sep 08, 2004, 09:32:52 PM »

thats why you get two tanks and depends on what kind of driving your doing, usually ur not driving to long of distances if you have a crawler.. plus just about everyother gas station can fill tanks... so its not that big of a problem... yes finding a station that fills propane tanks is 1 in every 2 or 1 in every 3 stations but i cant recal any trip that i have gone on were i havent seen a place i would be able to fill, i guess it depends on were you live but im in northern cali and it wouldnt be a problem at all.

Mike D · « **Reply #14 on:** Sep 08, 2004, 09:40:31 PM »

well now that i think of it there are a few around here.

fast68 · « **Reply #15 on:** Aug 05, 2005, 08:30:02 PM »

Quote from: snakeeyes on Aug 03, 2004, 05:39:27 AM

I am building an 83 toy. I recently had to retire the stock 22r engine. The replacement engine I picked up is a 22RE. The truck is set up for a 22R. The 22RE that I got is complete with intake, ect. Anyone know where I can get an EFI kit to run the 22RE in the truck? Or could I swap the intakes and run the original carburator? The carb wasn't in the best shape to start with and needed rebuilt or replaced... I was going to go with a Weber carb before I got the 22RE...

im parting out my 88 pickup with 22RE in it, runs good 127k miles, brakes now blown, so its going bye bye, and cab is rusted beyond any repairs, also the auto trans runs good, it is A43D tranny

you need anything off this truck ?

thanks

crawlerdan · « **Reply #16 on:** Aug 05, 2005, 08:34:44 PM »

im sure that if you scan the bible that is marlin crawler, you will find a how to conversion page

Tice · « **Reply #17 on:** Aug 05, 2005, 09:12:02 PM »

I coverted my 85 to EFI. What a pain!!!!!!!!!!!! Well getting a harness was a pain. I got the whole set up including the tank for 200 bucks!!

But the guy I bought it from was putting it in a 83 so he cut all the wires for the lights, signals, heater,ect off. I found one on PBB from a guy in Canada for 45 shipped!!! I thought to good to be true.......it was!!!! One of the main plugs that had like 17 wires connected to it was fried!!!!!!!!!

So I ended up wiring in a new fuse block to the stripped harness to run lights and wipers and such. Plus some of the wires running to the engine are not even hooked up. They just had no where to go!!!

But at any rate, it was worth the time and frustration. Idles up side down!!!!! till the pump has no fuel to deliver!!

crawlerdan · « **Reply #18 on:** Aug 05, 2005, 09:15:17 PM »

worth the wait and trouble!!! but if you ask someone whoes done it that will help!!

Tice · « **Reply #19 on:** Aug 05, 2005, 09:27:17 PM »

I also had two other EFI Yotas to look at when I couldn't figure something out. That helped too.

Even borrowed an ecu when I couldn't get it to run after it started (bad vacuum leak

)

CTENG in KS · « **Reply #20 on:** Aug 05, 2005, 11:51:36 PM »

Hmmm, I am not sure if i have an ecu, but i sure as hell have a complete, untouched efi wiring harness sitting in my shed...

awhotrods · « **Reply #21 on:** Aug 10, 2005, 12:37:23 AM »

Go EFI, its the best mod I did on my 82. More power, quick starts, smooth throttle response, and idles at any angle. Check out off-road solutions, they make a conversion harness for the 22RE, thats what I used in mine. Made it alot easier, but still a pain in the ass.

6.72:1 · « **Reply #22 on:** Aug 10, 2005, 12:55:10 AM »

Quote from: snakeeyes on Aug 04, 2004, 05:47:18 AM

The EFI setup from LC Engineering will cost me at least a grand... I am thinking of just swapping intakes and buying a new weber performance carb... Anyone had experience with the weber toyota carbs?

I have the Weber 38MM Double-barrel and it is fabulous!

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