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So at your rate, the 2005 2TR should be about a $3,000 swap in the fall of 2009. I bought my 1995 T100 3RZ for $350 (everything complete) in July of 2004. The following spring we purchased 3 other 3RZ-FEs for around $650-$700 each (everything complete). It would be cool to find a 2TR-FE for about a grand. You know these swaps are gonna start happening soon!   maybe yall could pioneer this??? Motor mounts and other swap parts  |
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« Reply #31 on: April 10, 2009, 08:55:18 AM » |
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« Reply #32 on: April 10, 2009, 10:02:21 AM » |
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« Reply #33 on: April 10, 2009, 10:36:24 AM » |
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At this point the 3RZ is strong enough that it really doesn't make any sence to go from a 3RZ to a 2TR. Toyota will have to make a 4Cyl 3.0 for me to change mine. And even then I may not, unless they can gain some serious power. Like, say another 40 ft lbs and 30hp.
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« Reply #34 on: April 10, 2009, 10:43:21 AM » |
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At this point the 3RZ is strong enough that it really doesn't make any sence to go from a 3RZ to a 2TR. Toyota will have to make a 4Cyl 3.0 for me to change mine. And even then I may not, unless they can gain some serious power. Like, say another 40 ft lbs and 30hp.
I agree. BUT, the market will be there for the swap. I'm just curious who is going to cash in on it. If there was more knowledge out there about the swap, and more engines readily available, many would be doing it just b/c of the newness and the extra power. It's just not cost effective right now. |
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« Reply #35 on: April 10, 2009, 10:45:04 AM » |
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Factory Rating 22RE/2.4 2RZ/2.4 3RZ/2.7 2TR/2.7 5VZ/3.4 1GR 4.0 1UZ/4.7 Imaginary I4 3.0 HP 115 142 150 159 190 240 282 177 Torque 145 160 177 180 220 78 325 200 Ok I'd consider that. |
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« Reply #36 on: April 10, 2009, 10:46:47 AM » |
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Factory Rating 22RE/2.4 2RZ/2.4 3RZ/2.7 2TR/2.7 5VZ/3.4 1GR 4.0 1UZ/4.7 Imaginary I4 3.0 HP 115 142 150 159 190 240 282 177 Tor 145 160 177 180 220 78 325 200 Ok I'd consider that. If bolts up to my tranny. |
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« Reply #37 on: April 10, 2009, 10:47:16 AM » |
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Why is my post all messed up.
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« Reply #38 on: April 10, 2009, 10:48:50 AM » |
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I would (and if I have the money, "will") consider "upgrading" from a 3RZ to a 2RT. I would be interested in the better fuel economy and faaaaaar wider power band thanks to VVTi.  |
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« Reply #39 on: April 10, 2009, 10:52:01 AM » |
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Yes, but you are assuming the power band is wider. Have you seen a dyno yet?
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« Reply #40 on: April 10, 2009, 10:56:36 AM » |
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I agree. BUT, the market will be there for the swap. I'm just curious who is going to cash in on it. If there was more knowledge out there about the swap, and more engines readily available, many would be doing it just b/c of the newness and the extra power. It's just not cost effective right now.
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« Reply #41 on: April 10, 2009, 03:14:53 PM » |
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Yes, but you are assuming the power band is wider. Have you seen a dyno yet?
Ohh I don't assume. I've seen Dyno pulls from other VVTi vs. non-VVTi Toyota engines EDIT: I thought for sure I had dyno shots of a 20-valve 4A-GE silver top (non-VVT) vs. a black top (VVT) but I can't seem to find any good pics. Here is an example from a V8, which I'd prefer not to use as reference, but alas its all I could find. Notice how the fuel mapping is FAAAAR more early on and still holds out the the bitter end. I understand at 80-100% of the RPM range the torque of the VVT may be less than that without VVT, but I don't demand torque at 5,700 RPM in my Rock Crawler but rather at 1,000-3,000 where the 3RZ is lacking in my opinion:  |
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« Reply #42 on: April 10, 2009, 03:54:33 PM » |
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Wow thats really not a very good illistration.
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« Reply #43 on: April 10, 2009, 06:21:31 PM » |
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Wow thats really not a very good illistration.
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« Reply #44 on: April 11, 2009, 07:59:28 PM » |
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« Reply #45 on: April 12, 2009, 08:21:58 PM » |
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I don't mean that the illustrations are poor. I mean it's not a good comparison for the topic. It's poor in that it fails to back up or give validity to the argument.
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« Reply #46 on: April 13, 2009, 06:31:06 AM » |
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TacoRunner is right.. If I can find a better comparison, I'll post up. Until then, I cannot prove that the VVT-i provides a wider power band until we get some dyno proof Carry on  |
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« Reply #47 on: April 18, 2009, 09:28:29 AM » |
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I will post some pics tonight of my 05 2tr in my 94 sidekick. Got some work to get done first.
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« Reply #48 on: April 21, 2009, 06:42:58 PM » |
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I will post some pics tonight of my 05 2tr in my 94 sidekick. Got some work to get done first.
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« Reply #50 on: May 04, 2009, 02:28:37 PM » |
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« Reply #51 on: May 04, 2009, 07:13:52 PM » |
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Nice, got any pics of the rig?
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« Reply #54 on: May 05, 2009, 11:48:00 AM » |
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Thats awesome, I love that thing. Get it running and start posting more pic's. PLEASE. And get it dynoed so we can see what kind of power it makes.
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« Reply #55 on: May 05, 2009, 04:42:10 PM » |
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More various pics around the engine please  |
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« Reply #57 on: May 05, 2009, 08:00:57 PM » |
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oh man what a sweet @ss build! I can't believe you held out on us until just now haha!
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« Reply #58 on: May 06, 2009, 09:37:38 AM » |
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Thats awesome, I love that thing. Get it running and start posting more pic's. PLEASE. And get it dynoed so we can see what kind of power it makes.
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