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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #90 on: Jan 23, 2006, 11:30:51 AM »
Thanks man.  I appreciate your assistance on this. 
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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #92 on: Jan 23, 2006, 11:37:00 AM »
Thanks man.  I appreciate your assistance on this. 

my hydro assistance?  :rofl2:

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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #93 on: Jan 23, 2006, 11:40:21 AM »
I just realized your cooler is 1/2", thats going to be big for the lines, you may want to get some 1/2 to 3/8" bushings match your hose size better.  :twocents:

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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #94 on: Jan 23, 2006, 12:00:41 PM »
my hydro assistance?  :rofl2:

 :rofl2:  :screwy:

Yeah, I will get on that Summit site and see if I can find some 1/2 to 3/8 reducer type stuff.

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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #95 on: Jan 23, 2006, 12:36:35 PM »
Well, I just got off the phone with Summit and they SAY they dont have anything that goes from 1/2" NPT to either 3/8 or 1/4" barb so I guess I will wait for my junk to come in and then go buy the fittings at a hardware store.
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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #96 on: Jan 23, 2006, 12:54:36 PM »
You should be able to find 1/2-3/8 bushing and then run a 3/8 npt/3/8 barbed @ a hardware or even auto parts store. If you were local, I'd have just the kick a$$ hardware store to send ya to.
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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #97 on: Jan 23, 2006, 01:31:54 PM »
Is this basically what your talking about on the 1/2 to 3/8 bushing??

I can find these with no problems.



If so, now I understand what your saying and then I would screw a barbed NPT connector into it.
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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #98 on: Jan 23, 2006, 01:43:24 PM »
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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #99 on: Jan 23, 2006, 01:46:56 PM »
disregard my Summit link,thats for AN  :smack: .like  freds40 said you should be able to find NPT local easy enough.

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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #100 on: Jan 23, 2006, 01:58:45 PM »
Yeah, I can find it locally with no problems.  I just wanted to make sure I was getting the right stuff before I went to get it.

Good, I am set up now and will have all my hydro parts in 5 days.   :shocking:  :bowdown:
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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #101 on: Jan 23, 2006, 04:49:14 PM »
Good. I expect it to be up and functioning in 6 days then.  :yupyup:
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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #102 on: Jan 23, 2006, 05:41:10 PM »
 :haha:  :rofl2:  :laugh:

Aint Hattnin!!  I got a ton-o-other stuff to do and........................................................heck, it wont even be here for 5 days.   :beerchug:
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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #103 on: Jan 25, 2006, 03:04:28 PM »
Well, I got my hydro parts in today and I thought that since the hydro cooler that was suggested in this thread is what I ended up ordering that I would post a pic of it to show you guys how BIG it is.   :yikes:   I had no idea it was REALLY that big.  I guess I can mount it on the inside of my fender well?    :headscratch:   I havent been out to test fit it yet but I dont think it will fit in front of my radiator.

Anyway, The MARLIN CRAWLER sticker that is posted with it is the 12" sticker just for a width reference.

I measured it.  It is 1' 4" wide and 3" thick. 





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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #104 on: Jan 25, 2006, 03:50:00 PM »
WOW, I used a single row trans cooler from Autozone and it works fine. Doesn't take up much room either.

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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #105 on: Jan 25, 2006, 04:11:54 PM »
Man that will definately up your systems capacity.  :thumbs:
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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #106 on: Jan 25, 2006, 04:40:21 PM »
Better get a bigger reservoir.  One about the size of a coffee can should do.
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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #107 on: Jan 25, 2006, 04:49:44 PM »
Better get a bigger reservoir. One about the size of a coffee can should do.


Coffee can?? I was thinking a five gallon paint bucket!!!! :yupyup:
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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #108 on: Jan 25, 2006, 08:43:24 PM »
Now, I had read somewhere that if you increase the size of your capacity by getting a cooler that you WOULDNT have to increase the reservior.   Is this not true?  I dont want to keep having to buy parts and buy parts and buy parts to get this right.  Should I send this thing back and just pick up some kind of a tranny cooler that is thinner and taller that can be squeezed in between my radiator and grill or just keep this. 

Its obvious I am a retard but I am serious, I dont want to have to keep screwin with this. 

If I have to I guess I can get a new res. or split mine and weld a piece of pipe in between to make it taller.

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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #109 on: Jan 25, 2006, 08:48:45 PM »
it all depends, some can get away with the extra cap of the cooler alone but myself I had to ad a larger reservoir. Plumb it up, bleed it out and let the pump tell you if you need the bigger res. (whining) On the size of the cooler, the bigger the better, you mean to tell me you can build an entire truck but your going to let a fat little cooler stop you?  :greengrin:

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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #110 on: Jan 25, 2006, 08:57:54 PM »
it all depends, some can get away with the extra cap of the cooler alone but myself I had to ad a larger reservoir. Plumb it up, bleed it out and let the pump tell you if you need the bigger res. (whining) On the size of the cooler, the bigger the better, you mean to tell me you can build an entire truck but your going to let a fat little cooler stop you?  :greengrin:

Ahhhh man, you just had to bust on me huh.   :rofl2:   I know, I was just thinkin, which is obviously dangerous for me.  I am gonna do some searching and try to pick up a spare res.  I am almost sure I will need it. I can always use a spare if I dont need it.

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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #111 on: Jan 25, 2006, 09:21:31 PM »
Some do need the bigger res. on my setup, I got away with the large tranny cooler and nothing else. I'd guess that with the size of that thing, you won't need a larger res. but you never know.
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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #112 on: Jan 26, 2006, 12:47:48 PM »
 All the info I have seen on this mod says not to drill to deep into the top of the box, but nowhere I have looked said just how deep to drill. Just for future reference for others the bottom of the vain your after is no more than 5/8 to 11/16 deep, any deeper than that and you screwed up. If i had not used a smaller pilot bit I would have known I went to far, but when I used the smaller bit I drilled right pass the right side of the vain I was looking for and into the box. Oh well off to find another box to try again. :hammerhead:
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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #113 on: Jan 26, 2006, 02:31:05 PM »
Can you drill the hole bigger into the first galley and then tap the smaller hole for a small Allen plug? You could JB weld the Allen plug in place then tap for the fitting?

So long as you didn't do any damage to the inner workings of the box you maybe allright.   :dunno:


  :think:  Next time drill with a bit one or two sizes smaller than the one you need to use for the tap.
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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #114 on: Jan 26, 2006, 08:54:23 PM »
I started with an 1/8" drill bit :thpst:, what happened was I that instead of hitting the center I driilled to the side of the vain and never saw it with the little bit. This was my first time and I thought I hit the right place, but when I drilled it out again with the 7/16" bit I found the vain I was looking for and it was to late. I would have to look again but I don't think there is enough room to put in a plug, do you think JB Weld or epoxy would work? I have heard that the pressure gets up to 900psi. with the restrictor drilled out. I know where there is two more boxes I can get cheap, maybe free. But I do hate messing that one up, I would be done by now.
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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #115 on: Jan 27, 2006, 03:37:04 PM »
CRAP, CRAP, CRAP, CRAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I cant find a single place to put this cooler.  IT IS HUGE!!!  I will most likely have to send it back or mount it under my hood on the bottom side of the hood.  It will not fit anywhere in the engine bay that I can find other than on the bottom side of the hood and it dang sure wont squeeze anywhere near the radiator.   :smack:  :headscratch:  :dunno:  :maddest:

Oh well, I will try a few more things when time lets me but for now I dont see how it will work.

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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #116 on: Jan 27, 2006, 04:51:40 PM »
Very informative.  Thanks!

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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #117 on: Jan 27, 2006, 04:54:19 PM »
I started with an 1/8" drill bit :thpst:, what happened was I that instead of hitting the center I driilled to the side of the vain and never saw it with the little bit. This was my first time and I thought I hit the right place, but when I drilled it out again with the 7/16" bit I found the vain I was looking for and it was to late. I would have to look again but I don't think there is enough room to put in a plug, do you think JB Weld or epoxy would work? I have heard that the pressure gets up to 900psi. with the restrictor drilled out. I know where there is two more boxes I can get cheap, maybe free. But I do hate messing that one up, I would be done by now.

That's why you don't want to use a small bit. The bigger bit would have hit the hole and you would have seen it.

No JB Weld will not hold all by it's self. You would need a tapped plug.

Any questions about it, then get another box.


FAR, Just send that cooler back and get a trans cooler. Much easier to install and will work fine.

Mine works fine and I have a hydro winch too.
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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #118 on: Jan 28, 2006, 12:39:06 AM »
CRAP, CRAP, CRAP, CRAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I cant find a single place to put this cooler.  IT IS HUGE!!!  I will most likely have to send it back or mount it under my hood on the bottom side of the hood.  It will not fit anywhere in the engine bay that I can find other than on the bottom side of the hood and it dang sure wont squeeze anywhere near the radiator.   :smack:  :headscratch:  :dunno:  :maddest:

Oh well, I will try a few more things when time lets me but for now I dont see how it will work.



What about mounting it on your frame rail. Maybe even as far back as the t-case crossmember so it would be shielded by the skid plate? You'd add a ton more volume to the system, more than likely eliminating the need for a larger res, and you wouldn't clutter up your engine bay any more.
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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #119 on: Jan 28, 2006, 03:42:05 AM »
yeah, I work 3rd shift and have been sitting here all night long thinking of where I could run this thing from and that is one of the options I was thinkin of.  I have to get a chance to get out to my rig and crawl under it and start test fitting it in a few other spots.  Its big enough, maybe I will just use it as my center console/arm rest and see how that works.   :laugh:
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