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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #60 on: Apr 17, 2005, 09:29:57 PM »
Complete with steel for the mounts it was @ the absolute most $125, closer to $100 though. Did a new thread covering just the box and pump mods. Check it out. http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=10579.0
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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #61 on: Oct 15, 2005, 03:28:09 PM »
Just orderd up all the parts. Update on the prices, everything still the same except the cylinder is now $82.95 - $118.99 total shipped.

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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #62 on: Oct 15, 2005, 06:59:44 PM »
I know I like mine and you get used to the feel. I would not want to go back.
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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #63 on: Oct 15, 2005, 08:06:20 PM »
Just got done tapping my box usings Brendans other thread, piece of cake. Man you'd really have to being TRYING to drill thru the second wall into the large opening doing the top vein. Mod the pump tomorrow then just wait for parts.  8)
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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #64 on: Oct 16, 2005, 08:06:27 AM »
That's the thing, everyone tries to make it sound like you have a super thin wall into the main body and you have a %75 chance of going through it. From the couple I've done, I would have had been asleep onthe drill to not realize I had made it into the vein and should stop.
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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #65 on: Oct 19, 2005, 06:40:35 PM »
one thing about the hidro.
If the ram is to long you will probably knock the steering arms off pretty easily
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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #66 on: Oct 19, 2005, 08:56:18 PM »
8" rams are too long for Toy axles unless you have a stop set on the shaft to remove 2" of throw. 6" rams work perfect. :thumbs:
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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #67 on: Oct 20, 2005, 04:31:46 PM »
8" rams are too long for Toy axles unless you have a stop set on the shaft to remove 2" of throw. 6" rams work perfect. :thumbs:

That sounds about right
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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #68 on: Oct 21, 2005, 09:12:07 AM »
I just used this thread to do my assist  :biggthumpup:  All parts to my door was $114 and change. What a world of differance in steering. Leaving tonight for the Hammers, Gonna be fun now that I can steer much easier(welded front and rear)
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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #69 on: Oct 21, 2005, 09:05:25 PM »
Glad it helped.  :thumbs:
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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #70 on: Oct 26, 2005, 10:32:13 AM »
Only ended up doing Claw Hammer and Aftershock, But the assist worked awsome  :beer:
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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #71 on: Oct 26, 2005, 08:05:41 PM »
  :rockingout: :thumbs:
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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #72 on: Jan 08, 2006, 04:23:55 PM »
Hey great thread man.  I just got done tapping my box and hooked it up and it works great.  For some reason it feels like there is a loss of power when I drive now.  Is this normal? 

I also have a light sound that sounds like my system is out of fluid.  It only happens when I dirive though it's weird.  I've heard about getting a bigger resevoir and I think I'll try that. 

Another thing that was kinda weird was my restrictor.  It didn't look like the normal one, it was longer and the hole was something like 7/32" so I didn't drill it and it feels fine responsive wise.  Just letting everyone know how it went and how nice it is.  The only thing I'm worrying about is the power loss, does anyone have any ideas?  Thanks

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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #73 on: Jan 08, 2006, 09:09:33 PM »
How many times did you bleed the system? I'm kind of thinking air in the system. And definately add volume to the system wether it's a larger reservoir, a large cooler, or both.
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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #74 on: Jan 08, 2006, 09:22:45 PM »
I started it up and kept filling the resevoir and bleeding with the little bleeder screw on the top of the box, I must have opened it 10 to 15 times until I had no more air.  I have a stock cooler that is just one loop of hard line near the radiator but I gotta put a bigger one in. 

The power loss is kinda weird though, it's like when I give it full throttle it feels like its holding back and then sometimes it catches.  i dunno I gotta figure it out

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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #75 on: Jan 08, 2006, 09:23:03 PM »
Hey great thread man.  I just got done tapping my box and hooked it up and it works great.  For some reason it feels like there is a loss of power when I drive now.  Is this normal? 

I also have a light sound that sounds like my system is out of fluid.  It only happens when I dirive though it's weird.  I've heard about getting a bigger resevoir and I think I'll try that. 

Another thing that was kinda weird was my restrictor.  It didn't look like the normal one, it was longer and the hole was something like 7/32" so I didn't drill it and it feels fine responsive wise.  Just letting everyone know how it went and how nice it is.  The only thing I'm worrying about is the power loss, does anyone have any ideas?  Thanks

heres some info on larger reservoirs from freds40's box and pump mod thread. cured my cavitation problem
http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=10579.80


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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #76 on: Jan 09, 2006, 06:03:03 AM »
When you were bleeding the system, did you raise the front end of the truck and cycle the wheel side to side?
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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #77 on: Jan 18, 2006, 10:54:43 PM »
SWEET!!  Keeping it simple from what I see.  And cheap
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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #78 on: Jan 19, 2006, 02:44:42 PM »
Just got my ram and stuff!!! :woohoo: Now I need to get off my a$$ and get it installed!!! :gap:   Thanks for posting this stuff Fred :beerchug:
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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #79 on: Jan 20, 2006, 01:12:41 PM »
How thick are the tabs you guys are using to attach the ram to the tie rod and axle?

I was looking at using something like this.....
http://www.aa-mfg.com/pdshop/shop/item.asp?itemid=408

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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #80 on: Jan 20, 2006, 03:57:45 PM »
I'm going to use 3/8" but only because I have a butt load of it!! :gap:  Otherwise I think 1/4" would be fine.
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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #81 on: Jan 20, 2006, 05:46:26 PM »
1/8 might be a little small. Most all "kit" form assists come with 1/4. The ones I made were just out of scrap 1/4 and with an angle grinder and a drill, it'll take you maybe a half an hour to whip out some decent tabs. You might search AA a bit more, I know they have many awesome tabs.
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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #82 on: Jan 23, 2006, 07:40:01 AM »
OKAY guys, HELP ME OUT PLEASE!!!

I just called Surplus Center and ordered up everything I could find.  I asked a question like 3-5 posts up from this one and never got an answer and I dont know what I need to order to have EVERYTHING I need.

I am trying to get it right the 1st time so I am not half way into this only to need more stuff.

9-5357 -  1/2" NPT 6 GPM Hydro Cooler
9-4410-06  -  Columbus 1.5x6x.75 Dual action Hyro ram
9-1938 - 3/8" NPT to 1/4" NPT Bushings  (2 total)
9-1922 - 1/4" male/female 90* fittings  (4 total)
916-1436 - 1/4" X 36" Single wire hydro lines (2 total)

This is all I have so far but someone said due to the hydro cooler we may want to look for some 1/2" NPT 3/8 barbed nipples. I cant find the part number for that and SC couldnt find them in their system.  Does anyone have a part number for this????

Do I need an extra hydro line too since I am running a cooler??  As you can tell, I am a total freaking retard with this setup and need some assistance.

PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAASE HELP ME<

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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #83 on: Jan 23, 2006, 10:24:25 AM »
Do you already have the cooler? if not just get one that has push on ends on the cooler itself. If you already have the cooler with the AN ends your going to have to find AN barbed push on fittings which are $$ especially if you get into using any angled fittings. Summit has a massive selection of AN fittings.

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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #84 on: Jan 23, 2006, 10:28:54 AM »
no I dont have a cooler already, I odered the one in my above post as was suggested in either this thread or the other one. 

DANG.  I wish someone had the part numbers for that cooler on what ends I will need.  Also, am I just over thinking this?  I am thinking I am gonna need more than 2 hydro hoses since I now am going to have a cooler.

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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #85 on: Jan 23, 2006, 10:32:21 AM »
This is what I got.

Heres the specs.



• New HAYDEN. Oil cooler for hydraulic systems, engine or transmission coolers, etc. Copper tubes with aluminum fins. 3/4" diam. cooling tubes.
SPECIFICATIONS
• GPM 6
• PSI 300
• 350° F
• Ports 1/2" NPT
• Cooling fin area
12" x 3" x 4"
• Overall size 16 1/4" x 4" x 5 3/4"
• Shpg. 7 lbs.

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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #86 on: Jan 23, 2006, 10:47:46 AM »
you only need the 2 hyd lines, which will go from box to ram. The cooler needs to be plumbed inline with the system with the low pressure side from the box (most rearward fitting on box) going IN to the cooler and the OUT from the cooler going to the return to the reservoir. you will need extra hose to make the runs but you dont need high pressure hyd lines, just use  fuel hose etc. pics if ya need let me know  8)

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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #87 on: Jan 23, 2006, 10:54:24 AM »
flop!!!!!!!  I am so stupid.  OK, yeah, I could use the pics if you gots em.....maybe there is another retard like me who can use em too.  :nerv: 

Now I just need to know what fittings to get for the cooler and I will be set.  I talked to a tech from Surplus Center for over 15 minutes about the fittings I would need and we could not figure out what I was needing.  If I need AN fittings then I guess I can get them, just need to know which ones. 

Sorry guys, I know I am making this eleventybillion times harder than it should be.

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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #88 on: Jan 23, 2006, 10:57:32 AM »
hey man no problemo, better to do it right the first time and save the headache and $$. pics in a minute for ya. back in a few.

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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #89 on: Jan 23, 2006, 11:25:02 AM »
low pressure from box to cooler in red, return from cooler to reservoir in green



 
 
 
 
 

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