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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #180 on: Dec 04, 2006, 10:11:42 AM »
were are you guys mounting your cooler at? got any pics

 B&M trans cooler on mine mounted in front of the radiator

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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #181 on: Dec 04, 2006, 10:30:09 AM »
Is everybody running the same Surplus Center ram? That is the one I have and my hydro assist sucks. I don't know if it is cuz my front diff is welded but I have to strong arm the steering wheel still. I have wheeled it for a whole year. I blew the internals of my first box up then tapped another and that performed exactly as the first. I figured it would have done more for me  :headscratch:
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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #182 on: Dec 04, 2006, 05:40:22 PM »
Mine is a little stiffer than my friends but still alot easier than stock. I ran into a problem last trip out, I had to rev the motor to about 2000 to get it to turn easier, at idle in dirt it was hard hell. I replaced the high pressure fitting that I drilled out with a stock one and now it works great. :dunno: I can turn the wheels at idle on concrete with no air pressure with ease.
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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #183 on: Dec 04, 2006, 05:45:41 PM »
I tried drilling my restrictor out and the pump squeals terribly even with my triple sized resovoir. I replaced the pump with a different one and I got the same squealing. I run a stock restrictor now.
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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #184 on: Dec 04, 2006, 06:51:20 PM »
Mine was doing that too.  I have about 2 1/2 qts of fluid in the whole system too. :yikes:
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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #185 on: Dec 05, 2006, 12:51:14 PM »

from what i have read you need to run a cooler... more capacity.. i got one from the surplus but the way the mounts are made seams like it might be a pain to mount? anyone running the same cooler with pics :confused:

Mine was doing that too.  I have about 2 1/2 qts of fluid in the whole system too.
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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #186 on: Dec 05, 2006, 12:54:52 PM »
from what i have read you need to run a cooler... more capacity..  :confused:

It squealed when it was cold and instantly on startup. Any thing above 1200 rpm the pump squealed bloody murder. I have a huge freakin res so I don't think that is the problem.
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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #187 on: Dec 05, 2006, 01:17:49 PM »
same problem with the drilled out restrictor the pum squeled. I have a huge capasitor from a man or mersedes bens trailer, and tryed a lot of different things... I changed the pump, I changed the seals in the pump my next choise is to change the seals in the ifs box and after that ???? I even removed some parts from a setup I mate for a friend of mine. but nothing.  I suggest changing the box even if it doesn´t leak.
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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #188 on: Dec 05, 2006, 03:04:24 PM »
from what i have read you need to run a cooler... more capacity.. i got one from the surplus but the way the mounts are made seams like it might be a pain to mount? anyone running the same cooler with pics :confused:


I'm running a huge cooler, almost as big as the radiator it self!! :gap:
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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #189 on: Dec 05, 2006, 03:41:48 PM »
I'm waiting on my trailgear kit to get here. no headache except for tapping my box (probably rebuild as I do it)... we'll see if pump problems arise  :crossed:

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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #190 on: Dec 05, 2006, 09:11:56 PM »
ya mine won't be mounted until i get my hysteer... running out of money hopefully i will be wheeling my X-mas :yupyup:
I'm running a huge cooler, almost as big as the radiator it self!! :gap:

lets see a pic of that mounted... what kind of cooler is it? and how much fluid does your system hold
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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #191 on: Dec 06, 2006, 02:00:49 PM »
ya mine won't be mounted until i get my hysteer... running out of money hopefully i will be wheeling my X-mas :yupyup:
lets see a pic of that mounted... what kind of cooler is it? and how much fluid does your system hold


I'll try and get a pic today, it along with the bigger resivoir holds about 2 1/2 qts.
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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #192 on: Dec 20, 2006, 03:54:08 PM »
alot of time squealing has to do more with the power steering pump seals/pump getting weak more than anything.
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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #193 on: Dec 20, 2006, 03:55:44 PM »
anyone ever tapped a fj-60 box?  I've got one here that I'm about ready to tap but I'm looking to see if anyone knows if the locations from the IFS to the fj60 box are similar?
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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #194 on: Dec 21, 2006, 12:56:10 AM »
alot of time squealing has to do more with the power steering pump seals/pump getting weak more than anything.

I tried two different style pumps and both squealed.
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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #195 on: Dec 21, 2006, 08:13:14 AM »
I installed my TG hyro assist, works great and no probs so far, please don't hate me for getting it from were I did..LOL

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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #196 on: Dec 24, 2006, 02:13:44 PM »
I installed my TG hyro assist, works great and no probs so far, please don't hate me for getting it from were I did..LOL
are you running a cooler or an over sized res?

i got the over sized cooler from surplus but i haven't put any fittings on it yet anyone else running this cooler?
and i am not sure what fittings i need for the res?? :confused:

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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #197 on: Dec 24, 2006, 02:25:28 PM »


i got the over sized cooler from surplus but i haven't put any fittings on it yet anyone else running this cooler?
and i am not sure what fittings i need for the res?? :confused:

thanks

james
what kind of res is it? the cooler should be 1/2 inch NPT
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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #198 on: Dec 24, 2006, 03:32:47 PM »
no cooler or res, yet. Im using Valvoline synthetic fluid, and have not noticed any problems yet. I do have a question though. I have an MC steering stabilizer installed. do I still need it with the Hydro assist setup?

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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #199 on: Dec 24, 2006, 03:40:53 PM »
I have an MC steering stabilizer installed. do I still need it with the Hydro assist setup?
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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #200 on: Dec 24, 2006, 04:18:27 PM »
are you running a cooler or an over sized res?

i got the over sized cooler from surplus but i haven't put any fittings on it yet anyone else running this cooler?
and i am not sure what fittings i need for the res?? :confused:

thanks

james

 looks like you're running the same reservoir as mine. They are AN fittings, bottom is 10AN and side is 6AN and will cost more than the res did  :talkingn: I mounted my res. in the stock location with some modification to fit and had to use a 90* out the bottom and for that fitting alone it was $25 IIRC. If you can get away with mounting it somewhere and use straight fittings it will be cheaper. Summit or Jegs for the fittings. I can dig thru reciepts and get you part #s if you need

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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #201 on: Dec 24, 2006, 04:36:40 PM »
heres the part #s for the reservoir and AN fittings to fit this reservoir


**Speedway motors PS reservoir P/N 91032876-STD-10**

http://www.speedwaymotors.com/xq/aspx/display_id.2062/qx/Product.htm

**AN fittings for this reservoir from Summit**

EAR-700167ERL
http://store.summitracing.com/egnsearch.asp?Ntk=KeywordSearch&DDS=1&N=+115&searchinresults=false&Ntt=ear700167erl

EAR-709111ERL
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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #202 on: Dec 24, 2006, 06:54:24 PM »
looks like you're running the same reservoir as mine. They are AN fittings, bottom is 10AN and side is 6AN and will cost more than the res did  :talkingn: I mounted my res. in the stock location with some modification to fit and had to use a 90* out the bottom and for that fitting alone it was $25 IIRC. If you can get away with mounting it somewhere and use straight fittings it will be cheaper. Summit or Jegs for the fittings. I can dig thru reciepts and get you part #s if you need

i cut my front clip off so mounting it is no problem... so you are just getting a threaded fitting with a male end and using a hose clamp?? thanks for the info and links
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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #203 on: Dec 24, 2006, 10:33:58 PM »
ya those fittings I posted are push on AN fittings. your suppose to use their special hose but the fittings  are barbed and the stock hoses fit well, havent had a problem. You could drop some  $$ and get steel braided lines and use the compression fittings too.

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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #204 on: Dec 25, 2006, 05:39:10 PM »
i ordered two AN fittings i got two straight ones i can't believe how much more the 90 degree's cost... got my ram mounted and my hydro lines ran now i just need to find a place for this HUGE cooler :flamer: and i am waiting on my fittings...
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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #205 on: Jan 07, 2007, 12:53:30 PM »
I installed my TG hyro assist, works great and no probs so far, please don't hate me for getting it from were I did..LOL

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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #206 on: Jan 07, 2007, 06:01:28 PM »
Drives good on the road, I drove it for abot 30 miles today. Only thing I noticed is that it pulled a little, but thats not related. at slow speeds the reaction time is a bit slow. not a big deal though.

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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #207 on: Jan 10, 2007, 10:40:47 PM »
i love this buildup thread, im definantly gonna do this setup on my 79, thanks for all the good info

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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #208 on: Feb 16, 2007, 07:09:45 AM »
Just to clearify the holes in the steering box are tapped to 1/4 pipe thread, so the lines would be sufficient at 1/4 also right? I had a friend at work make me up a set of hydrolic lines at work with 1/4 fittings and 1/4 hose. Please comfirm that I did good!
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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #209 on: Feb 16, 2007, 08:16:32 AM »
Nevermind I found it.  :smack: I did good!
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