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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #120 on: Feb 01, 2006, 08:20:35 PM »
That's why you don't want to use a small bit. The bigger bit would have hit the hole and you would have seen it.

no :pokinit:, I think i figured that out last week.
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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #121 on: Feb 02, 2006, 04:48:37 PM »
Too bad about the miss. I should have posted the "rough depth" dimensions but with slight casting flash variations, it could still be off. Best bet is to measure to the middle of the port (sighting from the end) and measure there. Then go slow with the bit measureing every so often. Main thing is take your time and don't rush it. If you get to the depth you measured and don't have it yet, try the larger bit and see if you can catch it. Don't get discouraged, you'll get it done and when you do, it will have been worth it.
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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #122 on: Feb 02, 2006, 05:08:31 PM »
Freaking sweet looking setup. :eyebrow:  Now a clearance question...  :_order: You guys with the marlin 4 or 5 inch lift hitting on the engine oil pan at all? or anything? :think:
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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #123 on: Feb 02, 2006, 05:28:17 PM »
I ran rears up front (axle roughly 3" forward) that gave about 3" of lift. I never had a problem with the ram making contact.
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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #124 on: Feb 02, 2006, 08:17:14 PM »
Freaking sweet looking setup. :eyebrow: Now a clearance question... :_order: You guys with the marlin 4 or 5 inch lift hitting on the engine oil pan at all? or anything? :think:


I was going to ask that.  My ram is about 4inches from my pan, as is my tie rod. I have about 3 inches of lift and also noticed my tie rod has contacted my pan a few times, most likely from jumping!!! :gap:  Just need to get the fittings to stop leaking and get out and test it and see if it is going to touch the pan. :thumbs:
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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #125 on: Feb 03, 2006, 09:13:05 AM »
are you guys worried about breaking something when the wheels hit the bump stops.
when I measured my tie rod travel in relation to the diff I come up with about 4.75 inches.

can you limit the travel on the cylinder listed above? maybe with a coller on the shaft? or would that just crush the end seal?

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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #126 on: Feb 03, 2006, 01:15:36 PM »
With my setup, I didn't even have my stops reinforced and I only slightly bent them (I think it had more to do with where I was wheeling than the ram) The 6" is perfect, the 8" will try to push your stops out.
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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #127 on: Feb 03, 2006, 03:43:46 PM »
I'm more worried about the ram hitting my pan.  But I'm going to remedy that here in about 1 hour :flamer:  :eyebrow:
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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #128 on: Feb 20, 2006, 08:00:56 AM »
 ok i have got another problem (leave it to me to make this difficult). i have ported the second box like the directions said, but when i started my truck the ram just comes out with no input from the steering wheel and to get it to go back i have to turn it back the other way to full lock before it goes back in. any ideas on what is going on here?
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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #129 on: Feb 20, 2006, 11:08:11 AM »
with the truck off the ground there is no reistance on the steering box so all the fluid works the box until the pitman arm stops, then if you continue to hold the wheel over the pressure will go into the ram moving it in/out. set the truck down and the ram will (should) work in conjuncton with the box  ;)

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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #130 on: Feb 20, 2006, 06:49:50 PM »
Thanks that could explain it. The ram is not mounted yet it, is sitting on a block in front of the axle right now. I am going to look at it for a while and try to get it to mount itself, if not i will get it on this weekend. later
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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #131 on: Mar 13, 2006, 11:20:55 AM »
Did any of you guys need to use a stop on the ram like the one 4RnrRick did on this Pirate thread?


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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #132 on: Mar 13, 2006, 04:40:02 PM »
no but thats a good idea, I'ma check my stroke out tomorrow  :suprised:
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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #133 on: Mar 13, 2006, 08:00:18 PM »
no but thats a good idea, I'ma check my stroke out tomorrow :suprised:


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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #134 on: Mar 13, 2006, 11:20:52 PM »
checking my stroke out tomorrow wont be any diffferent than any other day  :shhh:

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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #135 on: Mar 14, 2006, 04:06:23 PM »
checking my stroke out tomorrow wont be any diffferent than any other day :shhh:

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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #136 on: Mar 15, 2006, 10:27:01 AM »
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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #137 on: Mar 15, 2006, 11:11:23 AM »
no but thats a good idea, I'ma check my stroke out tomorrow† :suprised:
What did you find out?

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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #138 on: Mar 22, 2006, 10:35:54 AM »
You guys have made it sound easy, so I think I will try it. I will let you know if it works.
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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #139 on: Mar 31, 2006, 08:28:09 AM »
Did any of you guys need to use a stop on the ram like the one 4RnrRick did on this Pirate thread?


http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/newreply.php?do=newreply&noquote=1&p=5214202

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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #140 on: Mar 31, 2006, 07:45:42 PM »
The required stroke of the ram can vary depending on the high steer arms used. One vendor might have the holes for the tie rod further out on the arm than another. It's pretty easy to add a stop to a ram. Ideally you want the ram to bottom when you reach the steering stops on the axle.
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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #141 on: Mar 31, 2006, 11:36:53 PM »
One thing to add to this thread, when drilling the box, use a magnet, weather it be a pen type or whatever on the backside of where you are drilling to catch the chips, it will make cleanup go alot faster.

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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #142 on: May 02, 2006, 07:33:13 PM »
Went to set up mine and found out the upper mount bracket from the torque rod (I had cut off and kept during my high-steer install) is the same size as the ram used in freeds40's article. I just re-drilled it to 3/4in and welded the nut on the bottom. It looks real nice and it you cut it from your frame right at the frame itís just about the right height as well.

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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #143 on: May 02, 2006, 10:37:05 PM »
got pics?

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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #144 on: May 03, 2006, 06:24:57 AM »
soon

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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #145 on: May 06, 2006, 10:15:49 PM »
lets see some pics of your Ram mounting folks!

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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #146 on: May 08, 2006, 09:52:17 PM »
O.K.,  Quick stupid arse question.........................................

I have hooked everything up for my hydro assist except the cooler.  I am just wanting to know for sure............  The line that comes up out of the box went out the front of the truck near the pass. side head light, turned to a hard line, then about 6-8 inches later, made a u-turn and headed back into the engine compartment and up to the reservoir.

Is that hard line where I cut to make the cooler fit in line??  I was thinking if that is it that I would just cut the hoop (u-turn) off  and attach the hoses there.  Will that work.

I have everything hooked up but not bled as I still need to pull the res. off and extend it as well as weld the ram mounts on.  Right now I just have the ram zip tied to the tie rod just to keep it from hanging loose.

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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #147 on: May 10, 2006, 04:30:31 PM »
That's a return line "cooler" Those are the lines to use but you can toss the metal part and just run those hoses (or extended replacement hoses) to your new cooler.
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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #148 on: May 11, 2006, 12:33:17 AM »
cool, thanks for the reply.

My set up is complete..............well, minus getting the tabs welded on for the ram.  Once that is done, I just gotta fill it and bleed it.

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Re: Hydro assist on the cheap
« Reply #149 on: Jun 11, 2006, 05:34:43 PM »
Any updates?   I just got done with mine.  I got the ram,hoses, fittings from Surplus. Drilled and tapped my box per instructions, drilled out the restrictor on the pump, added a cooler, added 4inches to the resevior(using exhaust tube method.) Filled the system. I cycled the wheel back and forth while filling the resevoir till it was full.

Now it is increadably HARD to steer!!   I have cycled it back and forth dozens of times.  I can steer with it moving but not when stopped (with the engine running).   I dont have a bleeder screw on my steering box?

Can someone confirm which line on the box goes to which port on the ram.

 
 
 
 
 

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