Author Topic: A bold statement by ford (Read 8426 times)

kneedownnate · « **on:** Apr 15, 2008, 10:24:56 PM »

Has anybody else seen the recent ford commercials claiming they're quality is now as good as toyota's?

Cheesemaker · « **Reply #1 on:** Apr 15, 2008, 10:33:57 PM »

If it was true, I still wouldn't buy one!

NT-OUTBACK · « **Reply #2 on:** Apr 15, 2008, 11:13:31 PM »

That's not saying much since the new yota's are not nearly as good as the old.

DTB · « **Reply #3 on:** Apr 16, 2008, 05:07:30 AM »

Quote from: kneedownnate on Apr 15, 2008, 10:24:56 PM

Has anybody else seen the recent ford commercials claiming they're quality is now as good as toyota's?

Its because they're made in America....I'm convinced of that...The Japanese made toyotas are far superior IMO

Toymin8r · « **Reply #4 on:** Apr 16, 2008, 05:27:14 AM »

Here we go again. Round 5478. Keep your hands up, protect yourself at all times.

Everybody knows that FORD makes the best cars on the......... bahhhhahahahaah

Sorry, I couldn't even get it out without busting out laughing.

Stocker · « **Reply #5 on:** Apr 16, 2008, 06:11:23 AM »

Not sure exactly which 'quality' they are using... maybe 'Initial Quality', which means... I dunno, maybe fewest complaints while still on the showroom floor? I doubt Ford is ahead of anyone after a few years of ownership.

I am forced to drive mostly Fords at work (for the past 27+ years). That alone will keep me from ever buying one.

fordh8r · « **Reply #6 on:** Apr 16, 2008, 08:42:52 AM »

Quote from: toymin8r on Apr 16, 2008, 05:27:14 AM

Here we go again. Round 5478. Keep your hands up, protect yourself at all times.

Everybody knows that FORD makes the best cars on the......... bahhhhahahahaah

Sorry, I couldn't even get it out without busting out laughing.

Ok, was somebody trying to get me to post here with this thread? I've worked on enough of those piles to know better...

All I can say is....."my screen name"...nuff said.

*FFC* · « **Reply #7 on:** Apr 16, 2008, 09:44:09 AM »

Quote from: kneedownnate on Apr 15, 2008, 10:24:56 PM

Has anybody else seen the recent ford commercials claiming they're quality is now as good as toyota's?

I did hear that, and I did laugh. There's no way Ford can compare their vehicles to Toyota... but then again, Toyota compares their vehicles to the big 3 all the time - so it's kinda "what goes around comes around".

But it is rediculous cuz there is no comparison!

abnormaltoy · « **Reply #8 on:** Apr 16, 2008, 09:49:29 AM »

I guess the old slogan "Quality is job 1" is out the window. Striving for mediocrity will come to no good.

porkchop · « **Reply #9 on:** Apr 16, 2008, 12:51:01 PM »

Personally I have a 2005 avalon touring that I would not trade for any new Ford .....well maybe a new Power Stroke to pull with I lookedat BMW and Merc and about everything and still endded up with the avalon it out classed them all in my opnion

abnormaltoy · « **Reply #10 on:** Apr 16, 2008, 01:12:19 PM »

Quote from: porkchop on Apr 16, 2008, 12:51:01 PM

Personally I have a 2005 avalon touring that I would not trade for any new Ford .....well maybe a new Power Stroke to pull with I lookedat BMW and Merc and about everything and still endded up with the avalon it out classed them all in my opnion

My sister has a Geezer Pleaser too. She loves it.

94MtnYote · « **Reply #11 on:** Apr 16, 2008, 02:00:46 PM »

I find it amusing when people tow their yota trail rig with a ford. I guess if the tow rig breaks down you have a second vehicle with ya.

porkchop · « **Reply #12 on:** Apr 16, 2008, 02:41:27 PM »

well i pull now with a 94 z-71 and really would lke to hook it up to disel and see how that jerks it around I am a more of a chevrolet guy myself

Tice · « **Reply #13 on:** Apr 16, 2008, 05:32:12 PM »

My wife and I have owned 2 fords in the past(zx2 and exploder) and will never own one again. I will only own Chevy's and Yota's now. Well a Cummins power Dodge would be nice for towin, but my 96 Silverado does just fine in that department for now.

jimbo74 · « **Reply #14 on:** Apr 16, 2008, 05:36:41 PM »

i have always liked ford... this isnt really a debate... it all comes down to loyalty.... i never had any ford break down on me that wasnt directly correlated to some stupid act i commited..... nuetral drop anything 5 times and it doesnt work anymore..... ah... the days of youth.....

Rocksurfer · « **Reply #15 on:** Apr 16, 2008, 06:12:26 PM »

So is this Ford's admission that their previous junk was in fact junk? I've heard this commercial and laughed at it, there is no way that they can achieve this level of quality. It's not Quality Is Job 1 it is Quality Of A Junk Ford! I'd never ever buy another Ford no matter if they were guaranteed never to breakdown.

Gittinit · « **Reply #16 on:** Apr 16, 2008, 06:43:59 PM »

I hear that comercial in the background noise wile on the computer. I got the attention of the hole house verry quickly with my rant! My wife gave me a funny look and said ,"its sad when one auto make boast about being as good as another". I guess Ford has finally openly admitted to having lower standards than Toyota for the last XXX years.

All these new ford comercials are gonna do is get loyal ford owners looking at toyota as an option when buying. Ford motors is ignorant for nationally admitting to striving to be as good as another auto manufactuer.

I say its good for toyota!

jimbo74 · « **Reply #17 on:** Apr 16, 2008, 06:48:54 PM »

as much as i love ford, i wont buy anything newer except for a p71 or a stang.....

the new psds with the 6.0 suck... i would get a 7.3 psd

BLACKDOG · « **Reply #18 on:** Apr 16, 2008, 07:43:59 PM »

Never liked fords, never have owned them in the past (family included) except for my grandpa's '66 mustang, that he bought in '72. He's been talking about giving it to me

I'll drive that one with pride!!

Now, I drive a 2002 F250. 7.3, 6spd, etc. Test drove and compared several different makes and models, and for my price range, and what I wanted it for (DD/capable tow rig) The F250 7.3 PSD with the 6spd won, hands down. I wouldn't have settled for anything less, no 6.0, no auto. Needed the cabin space, so the quad cab turned out perfect for my needs.

Rocksurfer · « **Reply #19 on:** Apr 16, 2008, 08:19:29 PM »

The only reason I ever even bought a new Ford was the price plain and simple. I regretted both buys.

jimbo74 · « **Reply #20 on:** Apr 16, 2008, 08:24:45 PM »

i fell in love with my friends truck.. he let me borrow it for awile

BLACKDOG · « **Reply #21 on:** Apr 16, 2008, 08:32:15 PM »

Quote from: Rocksurfer on Apr 16, 2008, 08:19:29 PM

The only reason I ever even bought a new Ford was the price plain and simple. I regretted both buys.

there's your problem, I bought mine used!!

I've been happy with mine so far

Rocksurfer · « **Reply #22 on:** Apr 16, 2008, 08:45:35 PM »

But that's where they get their rating from, initial buyers ratings. Had nothing but issues from day 1 on them. Trying to think of any issues I had with my Toyota buys, can't think of any at all. In fact none of them ever needed to be taken in for any warranty issues.

BLACKDOG · « **Reply #23 on:** Apr 16, 2008, 08:58:01 PM »

Quote from: Rocksurfer on Apr 16, 2008, 08:45:35 PM

But that's where they get their rating from, initial buyers ratings. Had nothing but issues from day 1 on them. Trying to think of any issues I had with my Toyota buys, can't think of any at all. In fact none of them ever needed to be taken in for any warranty issues.

I have to admit, my toyota has had more problems than any other vehicle I've owned

kneedownnate · « **Reply #24 on:** Apr 16, 2008, 09:12:00 PM »

Quote from: Stocker on Apr 16, 2008, 06:11:23 AM

Not sure exactly which 'quality' they are using... maybe 'Initial Quality', which means... I dunno, maybe fewest complaints while still on the showroom floor? I doubt Ford is ahead of anyone after a few years of ownership.

I am forced to drive mostly Fords at work (for the past 27+ years). That alone will keep me from ever buying one.

"highest initial quality" is no better than saying it looks best on the cover of motor trend magazine. Hey ford, get back with me after you've called all the owners in 5 years and dealt with some ass chewins! They're mouth is writing a check their ass can't check...

I remember seeing one of the big 3 reps doing an interview at a big car expo or something, and he openly admitted that their quality wasn't, and hadn't ever been, on par with that of the japanese, BUT they were continually making improvements and trying to address known issues. That gave me a little more respect for them (just wish I could remember which one, though I think it was chrysler), and a shitpile more respect than I give companies who make such..... flamingly stupid claims as ford

I've long said if quality is job 1 at ford, what the hell is job two??? Obviously not wiring

Thomas P · « **Reply #25 on:** Apr 16, 2008, 10:00:59 PM »

How dare ford say that their quality is as good as toyotas, they might as well say that toyotas are just as shitty as our fords, I laughed when i saw that commercial

Goose · « **Reply #26 on:** Apr 17, 2008, 04:06:40 AM »

Quote from: kneedownnate on Apr 16, 2008, 09:12:00 PM

They're mouth is writing a check their ass can't check...

I think you messed that one up...

DTB · « **Reply #27 on:** Apr 17, 2008, 05:24:50 AM »

Quote from: BLACKDOG on Apr 16, 2008, 08:58:01 PM

I have to admit, my toyota has had more problems than any other vehicle I've owned

cough...3.0 cough cough....

94MtnYote · « **Reply #28 on:** Apr 17, 2008, 11:50:28 AM »

Maybe this thread should be titled, A desperate shot in the dark, brought to you by Ford.
If things were going well for Ford they most likely wouldn't have sold Land rover and Jaguar to the Indain auto maker Tata.

WHITE_TRASH · « **Reply #29 on:** Apr 17, 2008, 11:59:02 AM »

These days stock for stock 98% of the vehicles sold are reliable and last just as long as the next one. Not that its a good thing, all the new rigs are big steaming cow turds but they are the same none the less....

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