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Coolant and Oil Problems-1987 22R Toyota Pickup
« on: January 06, 2007, 04:01:18 PM »
1987 22R Toyota Pickup
My truck has been drippinhg a lot of oil and it has been using a lot of coolant.  I don't seem to be going through any more oil than usual.  I think the oil problem is a front seal.  My main problem is the coolant.  This morning I had to add a full gal of Antifreeze to fill up my radiator.  When I took it out for a drive maybe 30-45 min. it lost all of the cooland and started overheating.  When I got home the engine was really hot and when I took off the air cleaner cover there was antifreeze all over the in side.  It looked like antifreeze had been blown out of the carb.  I am kind of thinking it might be a head gasket, but I am hoping that it isn't.  Any help would be apriciated!!

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Re: Coolant and Oil Problems-1987 22R Toyota Pickup
« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2007, 04:42:37 PM »
I am kind of thinking it might be a head gasket, but I am hoping that it isn't.


I hate to say it, but all signs point to head gasket
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Re: Coolant and Oil Problems-1987 22R Toyota Pickup
« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2007, 04:58:16 PM »
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Re: Coolant and Oil Problems-1987 22R Toyota Pickup
« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2007, 04:21:21 PM »
Okay well I have called a couple of shops in town and it is going to be pretty pricey to fix and I was just thinking of a couple more options.  Engine Swap, Rebuild engine?  I curently have a 22R and I would like a 22RE.  Any sugestions on what is going to be the cheapest and/or the quickest.

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Re: Coolant and Oil Problems-1987 22R Toyota Pickup
« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2007, 05:09:29 PM »
cheapest would be to do the head gasket yourself
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Re: Coolant and Oil Problems-1987 22R Toyota Pickup
« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2007, 12:40:46 PM »
HI C---I MeanYota85Truck who really drives a 87...sucks about your truck!




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Re: Coolant and Oil Problems-1987 22R Toyota Pickup
« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2007, 06:03:58 AM »
Well I have dicided I am going to do the job at home.  Any sugestions on do's and don'ts to make it quicker or easier?

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Re: Coolant and Oil Problems-1987 22R Toyota Pickup
« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2007, 07:29:07 AM »
i got one!---DON'T MESS UP :hammerhead:




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Re: Coolant and Oil Problems-1987 22R Toyota Pickup
« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2007, 09:22:53 AM »
IT'S THE DRIVER...I KNOW...I WAS THERE WHEN HE HIT A CATTLE GUARD IN HIS TERCEL AT ABOUT 50 MPH, JUMPED AT LEAST 4 FEET OFF THE GROUND, AND SPUN AROUND 3 COMPLETE TIMES BEFORE WE FINALLY STOPPED 30 FEET FROM THE CATTLE GUARD! :sheerterror: ALSO, IT WAS VERY MUDDY, AND WE WERE DRIVING BACK FROM WHERE WE GOT STUCK EARLIER THAT DAY!




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Re: Coolant and Oil Problems-1987 22R Toyota Pickup
« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2007, 10:25:00 AM »
Make sure you use the proper tools and not "make due" with the improper ones.  Do it right the first time.  The Toyota factory service manuals are fairly decent at describing the process.   When putting everything back together double check all the torque specs.

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Re: Coolant and Oil Problems-1987 22R Toyota Pickup
« Reply #10 on: January 11, 2007, 11:17:04 AM »
In order to not mess up I guess I shouldn't have Mega Mormon (AKA moron) help me fix it.

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Re: Coolant and Oil Problems-1987 22R Toyota Pickup
« Reply #11 on: January 11, 2007, 10:19:28 PM »
Well I pulled my head tonight.  All went well so far.  We had a couple of problem bolts that were hidden (one up front where the distributor comes in and a 2nd in the very back between the engine and fire wall).  The first one we couldn't see because it was in a puddle of oil and the second we couldn't see and when we found it, it was a pain in the but to get to.  My timing chain was pretty loose.  I am surprised I didn't jump a tooth, it was loose enough that we could physically move the chain over a tooth.  I also made sure to mark everything with masking tape hoping to make it easier when I put it back together

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Re: Coolant and Oil Problems-1987 22R Toyota Pickup
« Reply #12 on: January 12, 2007, 07:51:27 AM »
at least you caught yours before you had to get a new chain and chain cover! and whose 'we'? was it 'suzy'?




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Re: Coolant and Oil Problems-1987 22R Toyota Pickup
« Reply #13 on: January 15, 2007, 07:51:35 PM »
Does anyone know the torque spec. for the head bolts?  I have been lookin through my Chilton Repair Manual and I can't find it.   

Also does anyone know if you have to take off the front cover to replace the chain?

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Re: Coolant and Oil Problems-1987 22R Toyota Pickup
« Reply #14 on: January 15, 2007, 09:38:29 PM »
58ft lb.  That's another good reason for a haynes :thumbs:  Never been impressed with the utter lack of information in the chiltons.
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Re: Coolant and Oil Problems-1987 22R Toyota Pickup
« Reply #15 on: January 15, 2007, 11:13:30 PM »
.Haynes Manuel is your Bible. Chilton's are good for chocking your tires.
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Re: Coolant and Oil Problems-1987 22R Toyota Pickup
« Reply #16 on: January 16, 2007, 03:58:33 PM »
Well I finally found it, it was in a torque spec. section.  I found it last night, but 58 sound pretty close to what Chilton said. 

So does anyone know about the timing chain?

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Re: Coolant and Oil Problems-1987 22R Toyota Pickup
« Reply #17 on: January 16, 2007, 04:38:07 PM »
Yes, you do have to remove the front cover to get to the tensioners. Unfortunately, the best time to do this is when the head is off(maybe you are not that far back together yet). If you have put the head back on, you might consider removing the oil pan to get the front cover off since it is sandwiched between the head and oil pan. I have seen writeups where some people do the front without removing either, but it seems to me it would be tough. Be sure to label all of your bolts, they are different lengths. Be especially careful of the ones that go through the oil pump, there's one that can interfere with your tensioner!

Go to www.4crawler.com he has a good write-up on timing chain replacement procedure.
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Re: Coolant and Oil Problems-1987 22R Toyota Pickup
« Reply #18 on: January 16, 2007, 09:21:18 PM »
THanks, and I haven't put my head back on yet.  Things have been moving kinda slow.  There isn't a machine shop where I live so I had to drive an hour to drop it off.  I just dropped it off today.

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Re: Coolant and Oil Problems-1987 22R Toyota Pickup
« Reply #19 on: January 17, 2007, 12:18:41 PM »
 You may want to consider an oik pump while your there.

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Re: Coolant and Oil Problems-1987 22R Toyota Pickup
« Reply #20 on: January 17, 2007, 12:46:44 PM »
yes  get a new timing chain and tensioner from TOYOTA,  do NOT  use  a tensioner from autozone ,checker, bobs parts,  etc
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Re: Coolant and Oil Problems-1987 22R Toyota Pickup
« Reply #21 on: January 21, 2007, 01:29:52 PM »
How much does a new oil pump usually cost?  And when do they usually go out?

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Re: Coolant and Oil Problems-1987 22R Toyota Pickup
« Reply #22 on: January 24, 2007, 12:06:20 PM »
Well I put everything back together and fired her up.  She ran good for about 20 min, then it started to run like crap again.  I took the Air Cleaner cover off and hose running from the valve cover was shooting out steam.  I think that I need another Front cover becuase the chain chewed through mine becuase it was so loose.  Does anyone have any other ideas on what could be wrong?

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Re: Coolant and Oil Problems-1987 22R Toyota Pickup
« Reply #23 on: January 24, 2007, 02:00:55 PM »
Go to http://www.engnbldr.com/ToyotaHotLicks.htm

Yes, you'll need a new front cover if the chain chewed through it...   :qtip:

The metal-backed timing guide will keep that from happening again. You DID replace the old timing chain set, right?
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Re: Coolant and Oil Problems-1987 22R Toyota Pickup
« Reply #24 on: January 24, 2007, 05:18:43 PM »
yes, he put in a new timing chain set!




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Re: Coolant and Oil Problems-1987 22R Toyota Pickup
« Reply #25 on: January 24, 2007, 05:28:30 PM »
How much does a new oil pump usually cost?  And when do they usually go out?
mine has 334,xxxmiles three timing covers four blocks as long as it is'nt visably damaged its good

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Re: Coolant and Oil Problems-1987 22R Toyota Pickup
« Reply #26 on: January 24, 2007, 05:30:49 PM »
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yes  get a new timing chain and tensioner from TOYOTA,  do NOT  use  a tensioner from autozone ,checker, bobs parts,  etc
allways used autobone t-chain sets had i go out never thought about the tensioner

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Re: Coolant and Oil Problems-1987 22R Toyota Pickup
« Reply #27 on: January 25, 2007, 11:50:37 AM »
do you have any antifreeze in your oil?if not, usually there is no hole in your timing chain cover!!
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Re: Coolant and Oil Problems-1987 22R Toyota Pickup
« Reply #28 on: January 25, 2007, 12:02:10 PM »
Yes, coolant in the oil.  The old chain guide was broken and the chain was really loose so it rubbed on the edge of he timing cover.  It put a gouge about 2-3 mm deep, maybe more.

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Re: Coolant and Oil Problems-1987 22R Toyota Pickup
« Reply #29 on: January 25, 2007, 12:50:51 PM »
common problem!!!......did you find a new timing chain cover yet?i might have a suggestion, if not.

 
 
 
 
 

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