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UPDATE: This Bellhousing now is available for Online Ordering through its new Catalog Listing located here: 2RZ/3RZ-FE - to - R-series Transmission Conversion


We are happy to announce the release of our New 2RZ / 3RZ Bellhousing!!



This bellhousing is the first bellhousing in the world to adapt a 'RZ' engine block to a R-series transmission.

When Toyota released the 2RZ-FE (2.4L) and 3RZ-FE (2.7L), they fitted it with a W59 5-speed transmission. The W59 transmission comes from the same W-series of transmissions that have been in use since 1985. Although it is a decent transmission, those who put the 'RZ' engine to the test quickly find the W59 lacking in durability and strength. Before now, the only other 5-speed transmission available for the 'RZ' engine is a G-series transmission, which shares the same front housing bolt pattern and input shaft length/spline count as the W-series transmissions.

Well not any more. Marlin Czajkowski has been working hard on designing a 'RZ' bellhousing that will allow a R-series 5-speed transmission, such as a R151F (1986-87 Turbo 22R-TE) or a R150F (1988-95 3.0 and 1996-04 3.4 L V6), to be bolted directly behind a 'RZ' engine. Now 2RZ-FE and 3RZ-FE owners can enjoy the amazing strength and reliability of a R-series transmission, the strongest Pickup/4Runner/T100/Tacoma 5-speed 4WD transmissions that Toyota has ever sold in the USA. In addition, 23-spline gear drive transfercases are now available with a 2RZ- and 3RZ-engine.

This is especially pertinent to 2RZ- and 3RZ-powered Desert Racers and Supercharged or Turbocharged 2RZ- and 3RZ-engines, and those who wish to run 23-spline t/case(s) in a RZ-powered Rock Crawler.

Pricing info coming soon.
Applications include: 2RZ or 3RZ Engine to R150F (3.0 or 3.4L) or R151F (2.4L Turbo) transmissions.
Availability: Bellhousings are IN STOCK and ready to ship!
Please call for more info.






And as many of you did not know, we had the first Prototype out at this years 5th Annual Marlin Crawler Event at the Rubicon under Marlin's Crawler Truck in the form of a 5.15:1 first geared R151F Turbo Transmission into a 23-SPLINE Triple MC08R10 Marlin Crawler Transfercase system with two 4.70:1 Total-Spline Gear Kits:



Marlin's world-famous 1980 3RZ-powered Crawler Truck is no longer 1,047:1 as it has been since 1997, but it is in fact 1,372:1 (5.15 x 2.28 x 4.70 x 4.70 x 5.29).

Rubicon tested and approved by Marlin Czajkowski of Marlin Crawler :turtle:
« Last Edit: Mar 31, 2015, 10:28:19 AM by BigMike »
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:bowdown:  man  a 3rz  with 5.15  1st  R151  :woohoo:  talk about :burnout:
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fact 1,372:1 (5.15 x 2.28 x 4.70 x 4.70 x 5.29).

wow..... thats all i gata say...
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Awsome product.  Makes my upcoming drivetrain build much easier.  The wreckers around here dont like to pull the bellhousing off the w59 to use on the motor.  Very excited. :biggthumpup:
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Yes Marlin you are the Man!!!! That is great to hear!!!

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 :biggthumpup: you are the king  :king:
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This is AWESOME!! Right on Marlin!!

PLEASE BE SURE TO PROTECT YOUR PRODUCT AND PATENT THE S#!t out of it!!!



What's the $$ figure?
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PLEASE BE SURE TO PROTECT YOUR PRODUCT AND PATENT THE S#!t out of it!!!

I'm sure it's been taken care of, why do you think we had no idea this was coming until it was actually available?

Oh yeah a $$ would be appreciated here as well.
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better to say it then not to and find out the worst :thumbs:

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dont think ill ever be using this, but it is still really cool. congrats!
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Wow, I saw that bellhousing in the truck when I was there working on it and thought something was up. I knew it didn't look stock.

Way to go Marlin. :thumbs: 

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wow, when i win the lottery  i could have a 3RZ+R151  :bling:
who needs a tow rig  when you have that  setup  :burnout:
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wow, when i win the lottery  i could have a 3RZ+R151  :bling:
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5.15:1 first geared R151F Turbo Transmission into a 23-SPLINE Triple MC08R10 Marlin Crawler Transfercase system with two 4.70:1 Total-Spline Gear Kits:

 was it 2 mco8r10's? rotated a total of 20 deg.??
this is ausome.  i may have found a 95 with a 2rz or 3rz( waiting for the guy to get back to me.) for 550 for the wreacked truck.  I just have to find a place to store it.  I already have a turbo tranny,  man  Cant wait to see how much.  the truck I might buy has a 2wd tranny maybe I could sell that to pay for this sweet bell housing.   marlin is god!!!!!!!!!



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Well there goes the old dream and time for the new one...

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And I thought I wasn't goin to be able to swap in a 3rz, should have known all I would have to do is wait a little while, now all i need is motor mounts and a wireing harness and I'll be set  :biggthumpup:

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Nice....

So time for the stupid question of the day..... is a W or G series tranny the same length as a R151F series tranny. Meaning if I upgrade my W56 (which is current behind a 3rz) to a R151F do I have to relocate my t-case mounts?

Also what Flywheel, Clutch, Fork & Starter does it use?

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Nice....

So time for the stupid question of the day..... is a W or G series tranny the same length as a R151F series tranny. Meaning if I upgrade my W56 (which is current behind a 3rz) to a R151F do I have to relocate my t-case mounts?

Also what Flywheel, Clutch, Fork & Starter does it use?

Rick

I think it'll work perfect for you rick, When I swapped in the R151 in place of my W56 everything bolted right back in place including my crossmember.  But just to be sure I can got out and measure.  WAIT, now that I think about it, I had to make a new tranny tunnel cover plate, because the shifter comes throught in alot different location, so you would have to modifly your pretty, new :love: tranny tunnel.

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I had to make a new tranny tunnel cover plate, because the shifter comes throught in alot different location, so you would have to modifly your pretty, new :love: tranny tunnel.

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Rick,
Some Turbo tranny's are forward shifting (bench seats) and some are top shifting (bucket seats). If you match your W56's configuration, you'll be pretty close...

BigMike,
Price of the new bellhousing?

Again, what slave cylinder, clutch fork, throwout bearing do we use? I presume the starter, flywheel, and clutch will remain 3RZ...
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:phone:   Marlin says  everything is  3RZ  EXCEPT  the  pivot ball  and fork which must be R150 or R151
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Hello,

I have been out of town on a run and have been away from the forum until now.

I can answer all of these questions except for the price because I have not been informed of it as I thought I would have been on Friday.

As for the other questions, I have requested Marlin to personally address every question and other related questions that have or have not been asked at this time.

With that said, Marlin will be on the forum tomorrow night and will address these questions personally :booya:


Hey 4RnrRick: You know that Marlin showed you his bellhousing at MCR5 when it was in the prototype stages, but we didn't think you put 2 & 2 together as you seemed to not realize that up to that time, it was impossible to mount a R-transmission behind a 'RZ' block unless you built a custom bellhousing or used some sort of strange and unusual adapter.


Please stand by for tomorrow night for Marlin. If you have any important questions about this new exciting product, please ask them before then.

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Marlin never told me (that I remember) what tranny was actually under there. But he did talk about some other odd ball gear set he found for his tranny to get a granny low first. He did I believe mention this new granny low gear set was out of a R-series tranny - but I just assumed he somehow adapted that gear set to his W-Series. "Now" I realize what we was talking about. I'm sure if he would have told me he was running a R-series tranny in the red truck - I would have asked how he did it! I never crawled under there and looked at it myself. Anyways its a cool product.

I'm very interested in this since I just lost a bearing in my W56A on this last Friday and I need to figure out what I'm going to do since the snow is falling here and I'm missing out on the fresh snow wheeling!

My specific questions...
How long is a W56 compared to a R151F (turbo tranny)
How long is a W56 Compared to a R150 (V6 Tranny) + gear drive T-case adapter
When is this going to be available to the public and how much!
« Last Edit: Nov 27, 2006, 09:53:52 AM by 4RnrRick »

 
 
 
 
 

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