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Axle Code Mystery
« on: Sep 28, 2005, 02:13:34 PM »
I have a 1993 (Japanese-made) 2WD T100 with a 3VZ-E and an R150. It has a JTxxxx.... VIN. The axle code on the doorjamb is A01A. According to the chart on http://www.off-road.com/toyota/tech/other/4_axles.html , the axle in my T100 is a 138mm ring gear differential with 3.300:1 gears.


Visually, the axle is a Toyota "8.25 / 8.4" axle, noted by the gussets on the third member and the square gusset on top.

It's a 6 lug axle, with the classic trussed axle housing, shown here:




Anyone know why there would be a disparity like this?
1993 T100: #659, Ultra-Rare 4 Speed R150
1996 XJ: 98 Engine, Ultra-Rare 0 Speed AW4

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Re: Axle Code Mystery
« Reply #1 on: Sep 28, 2005, 04:30:20 PM »
Not a regular 4cyl. 8 inch third.  Should be a square gusset/oil tube on the bottom also.  Is the engine a 4 or 6cyl in the truck?  I am guessing a 4 since it is a 2wd?  but i could be wrong.

edit: guess it is a v6.
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Re: Axle Code Mystery
« Reply #2 on: Sep 28, 2005, 05:34:13 PM »
its a 7.5 inch ring gear,    ratio is a 3.42  :wave:
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Re: Axle Code Mystery
« Reply #3 on: Sep 28, 2005, 05:35:36 PM »
and for a 2wd,  thats actually kinda low geared,  ive seen some with 3.07-1 gears
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Re: Axle Code Mystery
« Reply #4 on: Sep 28, 2005, 07:10:30 PM »
with a 3VZ-E

First post says it's got a 3.0L V6.

One of the main reasons I'm curious is that I can't find ANY source that says there's an axle other than the 8" ring gear mistakenly referred to as the 8.25 or 8.4 in T100's.

Every source says that is the ONLY axle offered in a T100.

Also the speedometer reads roughly 10-11% off: read "It reads 67 MPH when GPS says 60 MPH"

To truly go 70MPH on the highway (going off GPS, those "Your speed is____" readouts and counting mile markers) I have to turn 3750 RPM.

The truck has 215/75R15 tires.
« Last Edit: Sep 28, 2005, 07:16:47 PM by HotSEXJ »
1993 T100: #659, Ultra-Rare 4 Speed R150
1996 XJ: 98 Engine, Ultra-Rare 0 Speed AW4

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Re: Axle Code Mystery
« Reply #5 on: Sep 29, 2005, 06:12:46 AM »
 :smack: you  know that casting looks like a e-locker without the locker,  the way the oil channels are cast, i bet someone made a mistake buliding your truck ,  the axle tube and 3rd looks like a 8 inch,  there is a 8.4 used in some tacoma's and T100's 

the only sure fire way to know is to take that puppy out  :sheerterror:
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Re: Axle Code Mystery
« Reply #6 on: Sep 29, 2005, 09:32:50 AM »
Can anybody make a positive visual ID on my axle (going off the gussets, etc)?

I really just want to know the gear ratio, because with the current gearing and 215/75R15's, it's top speed is about 75mph at 4000RPM - and holding a 3VZE at 4000 RPM for a few hours feels bad.
1993 T100: #659, Ultra-Rare 4 Speed R150
1996 XJ: 98 Engine, Ultra-Rare 0 Speed AW4

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Re: Axle Code Mystery
« Reply #7 on: Sep 29, 2005, 01:04:25 PM »
I work for a toy dealer and if you like I can run your vin# and break it down and even mail you a printout.Send me a PM
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Re: Axle Code Mystery
« Reply #8 on: Sep 29, 2005, 06:12:27 PM »
Thanks - PM sent.
1993 T100: #659, Ultra-Rare 4 Speed R150
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Re: Axle Code Mystery
« Reply #9 on: Oct 03, 2005, 09:05:00 AM »
You have a T-100 4X2 it is a 1/2 ton set up your rear gear is 4.083 with rr abs Your axle(third member) is built for and only a T-100 it is not used on anything else I cross checked the part# 41110-34040 w(abs) and only the T-100 comes up.There are no supersessions(changed #'s) The rear axle shaft itself is the same one they use on the Tundra.
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Re: Axle Code Mystery
« Reply #10 on: Oct 03, 2005, 09:22:33 AM »
Thanks for all the info!

so is it an 8" ring gear?
1993 T100: #659, Ultra-Rare 4 Speed R150
1996 XJ: 98 Engine, Ultra-Rare 0 Speed AW4

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Re: Axle Code Mystery
« Reply #11 on: Oct 04, 2005, 11:39:49 AM »
The problem is you have a axle from a U.S built truck but your vin is a japan built. Yes by the chart your correct in your first post but in the parts catalog by vin# the info I posted earlier is correct. So I ask if you are the original owner? and if not what work did the previous owner have done? I have also learned that the TOYOTA axle code chart is not always correct quite a few techs and the older parts guys kinda laughed when I asked where this chart was. a few said you can't believe everything that you read. But all this aside here's what I have come up with according to Toyota you have a 7.5 housing 3.58 gear set and a 2 pinion. BTW  the charrt you looked at is for '89 to '93 trucks.

94 to 2004 TOYOTA TRUCK AXLE CODES
FIRST DIGIT                 SECOND & THIRD DIGIT               FOURTH DIGIT
DIAM OF RING GEAR      GEAR RATIO                            # OF PINIONS
A=7.5"                       01 =3.583                             A=  2
B=8.0"                       02 =3.727                             B =  4
                                 03 =4.100                             C = 2 PINION OEM LIMITED SLIP
                                 04 =4.56 OR 4.30
                                 05 =4.700
                                 06 =4.87 OR 3.909
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Re: Axle Code Mystery
« Reply #12 on: Oct 04, 2005, 01:55:41 PM »
I am the second owner - I bought the truck in April of 2005. I reckon the prev owner had it from 1993 until 2005.

Don't know what work was done to it - it's just an old beat up work truck- doesn't appear anyone cared too much about it.

So I'm still unclear - Is this an 8" ring with 4.10's OR a 75" ring with 3.58's?

I think I have the diff described below:

Erik from 4x4Wire says:
"All 2wd and 4wd T100's, Tundra's, and  Sequoia's use a newer/stronger 8" 2-pinion diff. Tacoma 4x4's and Tacoma PreRunner's that don't come with the electric locker, as well as V6 Tacoma 4x2's also came with this diff. One easy way to identify it is by the larger mounting hardware (10mm studs w/ 14mm nuts) vs. the smaller stuff on the older diffs (8mm w/ 12mm nuts). It also has a different shaped diff cover. and a slightly larger diameter bolt pattern and flange (about 1/4" larger) than the 8"  4cyl or  V6  diffs. It has a large one-piece carrier bearing cap (or "truss") that bridges over the ring gear to add strength. The axles that fit into these diffs are the same size as the earlier 8" diffs (30 spline).
In the past this diff has also been mistakenly called an 8.4" or 8.25" diff. The ring gear actually measures 8", but it is not compatible with the older 8" diffs at all. The extra strength of this diff comes from the bearing cap/truss and large diameter pinion gear shaft."

1993 T100: #659, Ultra-Rare 4 Speed R150
1996 XJ: 98 Engine, Ultra-Rare 0 Speed AW4

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Re: Axle Code Mystery
« Reply #13 on: Oct 05, 2005, 05:28:08 AM »
I don't know what to tell but your axle code is from a 94 or newer because the codes for 89 to 93 go   letter, number, number, number yours is letter, number, number, letter. All I can say is take it apart and measure it.
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Re: Axle Code Mystery
« Reply #14 on: Oct 05, 2005, 12:38:47 PM »
Dang, this really is a mystery then!

Crazy Yota's!

With Jeeps there's only 2 engines and 3 axles  :gap:
1993 T100: #659, Ultra-Rare 4 Speed R150
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Re: Axle Code Mystery
« Reply #15 on: Oct 05, 2005, 12:40:33 PM »
Well, now I'm wondering if the truck is a 93 or a 94 - I always thought it was a 93, and its doorjamb says it was built on Japan in January of 1993, but it could be a "94 model" ya know

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Re: Axle Code Mystery
« Reply #16 on: Oct 06, 2005, 06:55:47 AM »
according to Toyota it's a '93 OR the prev. owner blew a rearend and since the bolt pattern is the same they may have replaced it with a boneyard one.  ??
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Re: Axle Code Mystery
« Reply #17 on: Oct 06, 2005, 07:10:52 PM »
So let me get this straight:

Truck = 1993 Model

Axle = NOT 1993 Model

Ergo, Axle must've been replaced by Miguel Sanchez and the gang

1993 T100: #659, Ultra-Rare 4 Speed R150
1996 XJ: 98 Engine, Ultra-Rare 0 Speed AW4

 
 
 
 
 

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