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Re: Hydro Assist:box and pump mods
« Reply #360 on: Apr 09, 2011, 10:32:30 PM »
if you tapped the threads all the way, then it wont get tight until it goes all the way. You should not have tapped them all the way down, I did prob 3 solid threads with a half thread on top and bottom, i didnt use tq wrench but i imagine around 45 ft lbs.
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Re: Hydro Assist:box and pump mods
« Reply #361 on: Apr 09, 2011, 10:36:49 PM »
Ok so tighten them all the way Down I'll try that the top fitting on vein looks no leaks it's other one I'll try tighten down more and go from there

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Re: Hydro Assist:box and pump mods
« Reply #362 on: Apr 09, 2011, 10:38:31 PM »
if it hits, u can gall the threads up with something at the bottom, and usually make it work
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Re: Hydro Assist:box and pump mods
« Reply #363 on: Apr 09, 2011, 10:40:23 PM »
Gall the threads up????? ???? How to make it work?? 

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Re: Hydro Assist:box and pump mods
« Reply #364 on: Apr 09, 2011, 10:41:27 PM »
chew the threads up, destroy them, take em out, so that it will only tighten to certain spot, first try to make it work how you have it now, tighten it down tight.
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Re: Hydro Assist:box and pump mods
« Reply #365 on: Apr 09, 2011, 10:43:20 PM »
Oh ok I see so basie destroy the threads at bottom??  Any ideas flat head screw driver or??  Just try and mess them up or??   

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Re: Hydro Assist:box and pump mods
« Reply #366 on: Apr 09, 2011, 10:45:43 PM »
first try and tighten it down, if that fails, round file, or anyway u see fit.
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Re: Hydro Assist:box and pump mods
« Reply #367 on: Apr 09, 2011, 10:46:46 PM »
Lol thanks mAn I will try for sure!!!  I need this thing running

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Re: Hydro Assist:box and pump mods
« Reply #368 on: Apr 09, 2011, 11:05:59 PM »
Ya tapping it to deep won't allow you to get it tight enough and will leak. Teflon tape it  if that doesn't work you can always try what was stated above. If all else fails re drill and tap to 3/8  still works perfect and just be sure not to over tap it.

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Re: Hydro Assist:box and pump mods
« Reply #369 on: Apr 11, 2011, 02:03:39 PM »
What about thread lock???  I did some research they say loctite565 is good??  Any ideas ??? Best thread sealant ??  What out there

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Re: Hydro Assist:box and pump mods
« Reply #370 on: Apr 12, 2011, 08:20:05 AM »
i tapped another P/S box and made a tutorial video about it, based on Freds40's guidelines.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RjBleDihU4
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Re: Hydro Assist:box and pump mods
« Reply #371 on: Aug 13, 2011, 04:33:48 AM »
the lock tite tread sealant is good we use it on all hydro fittins where i work  it is good stuff the red tefflon tape is good to and it is a little thicker than the regular type

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Re: Hydro Assist:box and pump mods
« Reply #372 on: Aug 16, 2011, 09:23:02 AM »
I havent followed this thread since i did my assist in 06, so Im not sure what has been discussed since then....

Ive been running the parts mentioned in this thread plus a cooler. http://www.etrailer.com/Transmission-Coolers/Derale/D13250.html

When I had the 3.0 in my 4runner I was drilling out the pumps and going through them quite fast, faster than I realized. I started to pay attention after I swapped to a 3.4 and the 3.4 pump and I realized I was only getting 2 or 3 trail days out of a pump (OE or rebuild). So I bought a pump from oreillys with a lifetime warranty and kept a trail spare. On long wheeling trips I would have to change the pump in camp. Then I put in a stock unmodified pump, with a stock res (my large one leaked a little). That pump lasted over 2 years. I have not noticed a performance difference.

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Re: Hydro Assist:box and pump mods
« Reply #373 on: Aug 19, 2011, 10:51:14 PM »
still got the leak on by ifs box,,, i tried everything simple only option now is bore out to bigger size,, im ready to throw some jb weld on this thing and just go lol

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Re: Hydro Assist:box and pump mods
« Reply #374 on: Aug 26, 2011, 02:41:07 PM »
i am almost finished building my solid axle swapped 94 4runner with a 3.4L in it. i just got the steering done today, and noticed that it is normal to steer when the truck is off... but when i start the truck, its hard to steer. its comparable to having a welded 3rd in the front with manual steering...

i drilled out the restrictor on the 3.4L pump, but im wondering if the pump is dead... cause i honestly cant steer worth a damn... also, driving on the dirt road on my property, the truck bump steers like CRAZY!

any ideas?
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Re: Hydro Assist:box and pump mods
« Reply #375 on: Aug 27, 2011, 10:41:16 PM »
im willing to bed my ps pump on the 3.4L is dead... anyone ever run a 22re pump on a 3.4? im thinking of fabbing up somr brackets and gettin 'er done tomorrow! i know the 22re pump worked awesome, and i have like 4 of them, so why not?
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Re: Hydro Assist:box and pump mods
« Reply #376 on: Aug 29, 2011, 10:19:37 AM »
im willing to bed my ps pump on the 3.4L is dead... anyone ever run a 22re pump on a 3.4? im thinking of fabbing up somr brackets and gettin 'er done tomorrow! i know the 22re pump worked awesome, and i have like 4 of them, so why not?

couldnt find my 22re pumps, but i found a bunch of 3.0 pumps, and modified the brackets, the pulley, and the reservoir to work. so now i have power steering again, and its AWESOME with the assist!
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Re: Hydro Assist:box and pump mods
« Reply #377 on: Aug 30, 2011, 07:52:26 AM »
That you tube video is sweet , good explination ! :beer:

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Re: Hydro Assist:box and pump mods
« Reply #378 on: Aug 30, 2011, 08:27:41 AM »
That you tube video is sweet , good explination ! :beer:

thanks man :)

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Re: Hydro Assist:box and pump mods
« Reply #379 on: Aug 30, 2011, 08:34:05 AM »
couldnt find my 22re pumps, but i found a bunch of 3.0 pumps, and modified the brackets, the pulley, and the reservoir to work. so now i have power steering again, and its AWESOME with the assist!
you got any pics?
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Re: Hydro Assist:box and pump mods
« Reply #380 on: Aug 30, 2011, 08:40:33 AM »
you got any pics?

ive got a video... i tend to take way more videos than pictures... i should have taken a picture of the main bracket though... i had to grind a decent amount off it...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ytlaMdTzGw
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Re: Hydro Assist:box and pump mods
« Reply #381 on: Oct 27, 2011, 08:02:30 AM »
So I was going to tap my box last night but when I when I got on here for instructions, none of the pictures would load.  Same thing on the instructions on wildyoats.  We tried a couple different phones and computers. Same thing.  Is it just me or are the pictures gone?  I'll try that you tube video later.
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Re: Hydro Assist:box and pump mods
« Reply #382 on: Oct 27, 2011, 08:14:56 AM »
just you, works on my computer

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Re: Hydro Assist:box and pump mods
« Reply #383 on: Nov 14, 2011, 11:55:32 AM »
So I was going to tap my box last night but when I when I got on here for instructions, none of the pictures would load.  Same thing on the instructions on wildyoats.  We tried a couple different phones and computers. Same thing.  Is it just me or are the pictures gone?  I'll try that you tube video later.

None of the pics work for me either. Just a 404 error...

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Re: Hydro Assist:box and pump mods
« Reply #384 on: Nov 14, 2011, 05:51:44 PM »
Great info

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Re: Hydro Assist:box and pump mods
« Reply #385 on: Nov 15, 2011, 08:28:08 AM »
Good, so I'm not crazy. 

So I took some bad advice on doing this.  I was basically under the impression, that you would have to be an idiot to drill all the way through the top vein, and that you can totally tell when it hits it.  Nope.  Apparently not when you have a brand new, very sharp 1/8" drill bit for the pilot hole.  That damn thing just kept on cruising, and I was through the other side before I knew what hit me.  I didn't feel the drill bit sink or anything.  SO...apparently I'm an idiot.
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Re: Hydro Assist:box and pump mods
« Reply #386 on: Nov 15, 2011, 08:48:30 AM »
Good, so I'm not crazy. 

So I took some bad advice on doing this.  I was basically under the impression, that you would have to be an idiot to drill all the way through the top vein, and that you can totally tell when it hits it.  Nope.  Apparently not when you have a brand new, very sharp 1/8" drill bit for the pilot hole.  That damn thing just kept on cruising, and I was through the other side before I knew what hit me.  I didn't feel the drill bit sink or anything.  SO...apparently I'm an idiot.
lol.  I did the same thing on my first box that I drilled and tapped. 
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Re: Hydro Assist:box and pump mods
« Reply #387 on: Nov 17, 2011, 08:44:51 PM »
I wish my drill bits were that efficient for other stuff I need to drill. LOL

Good, so I'm not crazy. 

So I took some bad advice on doing this.  I was basically under the impression, that you would have to be an idiot to drill all the way through the top vein, and that you can totally tell when it hits it.  Nope.  Apparently not when you have a brand new, very sharp 1/8" drill bit for the pilot hole.  That damn thing just kept on cruising, and I was through the other side before I knew what hit me.  I didn't feel the drill bit sink or anything.  SO...apparently I'm an idiot.
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Re: Hydro Assist:box and pump mods
« Reply #388 on: Nov 17, 2011, 08:53:19 PM »
I dont use a pilot bit on them, its not needed, the box material is soft, and a small bit goes too fast and makes it hard to see when you hit it
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Re: Hydro Assist:box and pump mods
« Reply #389 on: Nov 22, 2011, 09:24:12 AM »
Well I finally tapped a box correctly and got this to work.  It's awesome!  This made the truck so much easier to drive down the road.  No more crazy bump steer or wiggles.  I don't have to slow way down for potholes anymore.  I can't way to test it on the trail this weekend.
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