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Good 2A news
« on: Jul 12, 2018, 03:04:55 AM »


Read more: https://www.ammoland.com/2018/07/doj-second-amendment-foundation-reach-settlement-in-defense-distributed-lawsuit/#ixzz5L27pJb7m
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Significantly, the government expressly acknowledges that non-automatic firearms up to .50-caliber including modern semi-auto sporting rifles such as the popular AR-15 and similar firearms are not inherently military.
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Re: Good 2A news
« Reply #1 on: Jul 20, 2018, 04:12:40 AM »
According to the FBI stats, in 2012 44% of all murders were committed something other than a gun.

The anti-gun, abolish our 2nd Amendment ideaology is absurdly idiotic. :screwy:

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Re: Good 2A news
« Reply #2 on: Jul 20, 2018, 06:20:32 AM »
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Re: Good 2A news
« Reply #3 on: Jul 20, 2018, 11:56:52 AM »
According to the FBI stats, in 2012 44% of all murders were committed something other than a gun.

Correct, and something like 64% or more of all gun deaths, which are all listed as homicides are suicides.  Stats lie, to find the real facts you have to look into where they get the numbers from, when doing so, you find all types of things, like how every Western nation with a lower gun homicide rate than the U.S. has a much higher rate of homicides by beatings and stabbings than we do, and where guns are banned or heavily restricted, mass stabbings are common, and tend to kill as many or more than our average mass shooting does here in the U.S. 

Now if only we can get a SCOTUS to do for the 2nd what the others have done for the 1st, i.e., a Brown v Board or Roe v. Wade for gun owners, then we will really have something to celebrate.

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The anti-gun, abolish our 2nd Amendment ideaology is absurdly idiotic. :screwy:

Gnarls.[/quote]

It is all part of the the socialist plan for remolding America, as a population that can't defend itself against its government, is incapable of stopping the government f, which is why our Founders believed that the bearing of arms by the population as well as the ability to gather and train as a fighting force was inherent to a citizen's ability to remain a free man. 

Like Washington willingly stepping away from the Presidency, it is rather remarkable and unique, that a government who just found their freedom from tyranny, was willing to ensure that future generations would have the ability to arm and train themselves to depose the very government they had just created, if/when the need arose, I don't think there has been a government formed over the last 200yrs that has been willing to do so, as most seek ensure the population is disarmed shortly after seizing power by the very arms they now seek to restrict.
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Re: Good 2A news
« Reply #4 on: Jul 20, 2018, 12:24:48 PM »
Correct, and something like 64% or more of all gun deaths, which are all listed as homicides are suicides.  Stats lie, to find the real facts you have to look into where they get the numbers from, when doing so, you find all types of things (...)

Are you referring to how gun banners have traded the phrase "firearm related homicides" (which lumps in non-criminal homicides, to skew statistics) for "gun deaths", which lumps in the 12-15 thousand firearm homicides per year with the 12-15 thousand suicides with firearms?
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Re: Good 2A news
« Reply #5 on: Jul 21, 2018, 08:34:13 AM »
In other news, The 9th Circuit court upheld the injunction against the Cali high cap magazine ban.  :thumbs:
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Re: Good 2A news
« Reply #6 on: Jul 21, 2018, 10:57:44 AM »
Are you referring to how gun banners have traded the phrase "firearm related homicides" (which lumps in non-criminal homicides, to skew statistics) for "gun deaths", which lumps in the 12-15 thousand firearm homicides per year with the 12-15 thousand suicides with firearms?

Yes, the numbers used by the gungrabbers comes from the CDC, and the CDC combine all deaths caused form a gunshot wound into one stat under cause of death.  Once you look into the data, you find that 2/3's of gun shot deaths are caused from suicides, deaths that would result without access to guns.  Then you have another X% that are accidental, X% that justified, X% that are done by LEO's(justified/not justified), and finally X% that are actual murders, which is usually only accounts for about 8-9k deaths each year.  Even at that the 8-9k, you can break it down further into who killed who, i.e, spouse killing spouse, neighbor killing neighbor, gang member killing gang member, commission of a robbery/kidnapping/car jacking/etc., mass shootings(strangers, co workers, classmates, family members). 

When it is all said and done, restricting access to guns would only eliminate less than 5k deaths each year, mainly the accidental shootings and the commission of a crime using a gun like robbery or carjacking that results in he death of a victim, people who want to kill themselves are still going to off themselves, gang members are still going to kill each other, same with arguing spouses, neighbors, and strangers, LEO caused, and mass killings, as these all occur at nearly the same rate or even higher in nations that have zero access to gins or where guns are heavily regulated.  China for example has mass stabbing that result in the same amount of deaths as our mass shootings do, Australia that banned most types of guns for the last 20yyrs, has had just as many mass killings as before, and just like before the main weapon of choice has been arson, Canada and Europe have lower rates of gun deaths, but higher rates of beating deaths than the U.S. does, same as deaths caused by stabbings, etc., 

Restricting guns has absolutely nothing to do with reducing death, it is all about reducing the public's ability to fight back, and has been something Socialists(aka over the last 100yrs, Progressives, Democrats, liberals, Progressives, and now calling themselves Democratic-Socialists), have been striving for since the Fed Firearms Act of 1934. Since then they have been trying to condition society into accepting increasing gun restrictions each generation, started with the rational form of registration-"You don't want criminals/or crazy having guns so we need to register handguns/rifles and do background checks", common sense of "How many rounds do you need to target practice or hunt with" so mag cap limits and bullet buttons/fixed mags, and now emotionally by calling semi-auto's "weapons of war", which oddly enough is the very thing SCOTUS ruled on regarding sawed off shotguns, SCOTUS held that since it wasn't a weapon used in combat, it was not protected under the 2nd Amend.
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Re: Good 2A news
« Reply #8 on: Jul 24, 2018, 05:41:28 PM »
WTF, did someone spike their kool-aid with common sense. :shocking:  It would be nice of the full panel refuses to review either one, though I doubt it.

Given the self-defense issue, bullet buttons and fixed magazines should be the next to go.
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