Author Topic: BFG M/T KM1 - How old is too old?  (Read 4088 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

ryantowry_81

  • Offline Crawler Guru
  • ****
  • Turtle Points: 185
  • Male Posts: 474
  • Member since Dec '12
  • Chief Mischief Officer at High Octane Spirits LLC
    • View Profile
    • High Octane Spirits
    • Buy me a drink
BFG M/T KM1 - How old is too old?
« on: Jan 09, 2018, 07:38:30 AM »
So I recently bought a fj40 project that was someone else’s project and it came with a set of 35x12.5-r15 bfg m/t’s
http://imgur.com/a/w2VP4

They still look new with nipples on them and I am told they have been inside most of their life but they still carry what I think is a date code of 2/2000.

I already have 37’s but do you guys think these are worth selling or are they trash?

Rockcrawlintoy

  • 4 doors for more whores
  • Offline The 2K Group
  • ***
  • Turtle Points: 2120
  • Male Posts: 2,338
  • Member since Dec '03
  • RIP Kyle
    • View Profile
    • Buy me a soda
Re: BFG M/T KM1 - How old is too old?
« Reply #1 on: Jan 09, 2018, 09:07:17 AM »
It is an 18 year old tire. None of the big tires places will touch them to mount. They are prolly fine but would get rid of them. Off them for cheap
Resident Jeep Guy
2007 JKU All Stock
ECV 7-11

mudmaster

  • Offline The 2.5K Group
  • ****
  • Turtle Points: 3687
  • Male Posts: 2,847
  • Member since Feb '05
    • View Profile
    • Buy me a beer
Re: BFG M/T KM1 - How old is too old?
« Reply #2 on: Jan 09, 2018, 09:35:52 AM »
Agreed!
Time to go wheelin!

300k

  • Offline Crawler Guru
  • ****
  • Turtle Points: 3744
  • Male Posts: 623
  • Member since Jun '15
  • GREEN NAME MAN BAD!
    • View Profile
    • Please ban me!
          OK!
      I am banned!
Re: BFG M/T KM1 - How old is too old?
« Reply #3 on: Jan 09, 2018, 09:43:13 AM »
you have tires older than me
:)bestgen4runner [12:45 PM]:   I am so stupid.

Truer words have never been spoken...

blackdiamond

  • Offline Gold Turtle Award
  • *
  • Turtle Points: 1174
  • Male Posts: 5,052
  • Member since Dec '03
  • Crawlin with Marlin
    • View Profile
Re: BFG M/T KM1 - How old is too old?
« Reply #4 on: Jan 09, 2018, 10:45:40 AM »
The reason that I got rid of my last set of tires on my 4Runner was that they had crossed the 10 year line where Discount Tire would no longer touch them.  I ended up giving them to a friend in Colorado that is running them on a CJ-5 that is mostly a trailer wheeler.

If you can find someone to mount them for a trailer only rig I would have no issue running them because a tire failure off road is fairly low risk, but street use significant increases you risk to personal safety.  I drive mine cross country so wasn't willing to chance it.
1989 4Runner: Dual Ultimate (Inchworm front & Marlin 4.70 rear), Marlin Twin Stick, 1200-lb clutch, 4.88 R&P, Aussie Front, Detroit rear, 30-spline Longs, Long hub gears, ARP hub and knuckle studs & 35x12.50 Cooper STT PRO tires.  Marlin rear bumper & sliders.  FROR front bumper.  SAS with Alcan springs & Rancho 9000XL shocks.  Budbuilt Bolt-on traction bar.  Custom Interior Cage by Those Guys Rod and Customs.

Moab Tested & Rubicon Approved

ryantowry_81 [OP]

  • Offline Crawler Guru
  • ****
  • Turtle Points: 185
  • Male Posts: 474
  • Member since Dec '12
  • Chief Mischief Officer at High Octane Spirits LLC
    • View Profile
    • High Octane Spirits
    • Buy me a drink
Re: BFG M/T KM1 - How old is too old?
« Reply #5 on: Jan 09, 2018, 04:38:43 PM »
I am definitely getting rid of them, i already have 37's. they just look so new i am having a hard time junking them. I plan on selling them with the rims they are mounted on as they are 15's and i have no use for them but what do you guys think price wise?

400 bucks with rims for offroad only?

blackdiamond

  • Offline Gold Turtle Award
  • *
  • Turtle Points: 1174
  • Male Posts: 5,052
  • Member since Dec '03
  • Crawlin with Marlin
    • View Profile
Re: BFG M/T KM1 - How old is too old?
« Reply #6 on: Jan 09, 2018, 04:46:11 PM »
I wouldn’t take any money for the tires. Advertise for the wheels with free tires. You don’t want any legal connection to them in case the next owner thinks they are awesome and decides to run them on the street.
1989 4Runner: Dual Ultimate (Inchworm front & Marlin 4.70 rear), Marlin Twin Stick, 1200-lb clutch, 4.88 R&P, Aussie Front, Detroit rear, 30-spline Longs, Long hub gears, ARP hub and knuckle studs & 35x12.50 Cooper STT PRO tires.  Marlin rear bumper & sliders.  FROR front bumper.  SAS with Alcan springs & Rancho 9000XL shocks.  Budbuilt Bolt-on traction bar.  Custom Interior Cage by Those Guys Rod and Customs.

Moab Tested & Rubicon Approved

ryantowry_81 [OP]

  • Offline Crawler Guru
  • ****
  • Turtle Points: 185
  • Male Posts: 474
  • Member since Dec '12
  • Chief Mischief Officer at High Octane Spirits LLC
    • View Profile
    • High Octane Spirits
    • Buy me a drink
Re: BFG M/T KM1 - How old is too old?
« Reply #7 on: Jan 09, 2018, 05:09:53 PM »
that is a good point.

you think 100 bucks a rim would be a good price then?

it is surprising though they are not weather cracked at all seeing as they were inside for 16 of the 18 years, dirty but look like they would have came from the tire shop.
« Last Edit: Jan 09, 2018, 05:19:59 PM by ryantowry_81 »

redneckcustoms13

  • Offline The 2.5K Group
  • ****
  • Turtle Points: 7674
  • Male Posts: 2,513
  • Member since May '15
    • View Profile
    • Buy me a beer
Re: BFG M/T KM1 - How old is too old?
« Reply #8 on: Jan 09, 2018, 05:52:13 PM »
I ran gateway buckshot n78-15s on my rig when I first got it. The guy I bought it from was the original owner with no reason to lie. He said those tires were purchased in the late 80s and ran during hunting season every year and then put back in the shed at end of feb. I sold them tires 4 years ago and the guy that got them was happy as could be to get them. Talked to him early this season and he is still running them on his hunting truck. Granted these don't get daily driven. Maybe 75 miles to the camp then all season around there then home. I have zero concern running old tires on a rig. I don't know if I would make a long journey on those bfgs but I would not feel bad at all purchasing them for $400 for use on a toy.
83 long bed 2wd sas, 3rz, w56, duals with 4.7 rear, 4.88 elock front, spartan rear, 39.5 iroks
01 double cab hunting truck
06 tacoma street truck

blackdiamond

  • Offline Gold Turtle Award
  • *
  • Turtle Points: 1174
  • Male Posts: 5,052
  • Member since Dec '03
  • Crawlin with Marlin
    • View Profile
Re: BFG M/T KM1 - How old is too old?
« Reply #9 on: Jan 09, 2018, 06:48:26 PM »
that is a good point.

you think 100 bucks a rim would be a good price then?

it is surprising though they are not weather cracked at all seeing as they were inside for 16 of the 18 years, dirty but look like they would have came from the tire shop.

I believe they start to degrade from the inside out.
1989 4Runner: Dual Ultimate (Inchworm front & Marlin 4.70 rear), Marlin Twin Stick, 1200-lb clutch, 4.88 R&P, Aussie Front, Detroit rear, 30-spline Longs, Long hub gears, ARP hub and knuckle studs & 35x12.50 Cooper STT PRO tires.  Marlin rear bumper & sliders.  FROR front bumper.  SAS with Alcan springs & Rancho 9000XL shocks.  Budbuilt Bolt-on traction bar.  Custom Interior Cage by Those Guys Rod and Customs.

Moab Tested & Rubicon Approved

redneckcustoms13

  • Offline The 2.5K Group
  • ****
  • Turtle Points: 7674
  • Male Posts: 2,513
  • Member since May '15
    • View Profile
    • Buy me a beer
Re: BFG M/T KM1 - How old is too old?
« Reply #10 on: Jan 10, 2018, 04:55:18 AM »
Not trying to start a gnarly style debate, but have you ever seen the inside of an old tire? I have seen many old tires dry rotting and cracked on the outside and inside still look fine with no separated belts or anything of that nature.
83 long bed 2wd sas, 3rz, w56, duals with 4.7 rear, 4.88 elock front, spartan rear, 39.5 iroks
01 double cab hunting truck
06 tacoma street truck

blackdiamond

  • Offline Gold Turtle Award
  • *
  • Turtle Points: 1174
  • Male Posts: 5,052
  • Member since Dec '03
  • Crawlin with Marlin
    • View Profile
Re: BFG M/T KM1 - How old is too old?
« Reply #11 on: Jan 10, 2018, 08:05:23 AM »
Not trying to start a gnarly style debate, but have you ever seen the inside of an old tire? I have seen many old tires dry rotting and cracked on the outside and inside still look fine with no separated belts or anything of that nature.

Inside as in internal and not just the inside surface.  I absolutely could be wrong, but when I replaced my tires I did a bit of reading and my understanding is that a tire can degrade to unsafe levels without exhibiting obvious visual cues.
1989 4Runner: Dual Ultimate (Inchworm front & Marlin 4.70 rear), Marlin Twin Stick, 1200-lb clutch, 4.88 R&P, Aussie Front, Detroit rear, 30-spline Longs, Long hub gears, ARP hub and knuckle studs & 35x12.50 Cooper STT PRO tires.  Marlin rear bumper & sliders.  FROR front bumper.  SAS with Alcan springs & Rancho 9000XL shocks.  Budbuilt Bolt-on traction bar.  Custom Interior Cage by Those Guys Rod and Customs.

Moab Tested & Rubicon Approved

kneedownnate

  • Offline Gold Turtle Award
  • *
  • Turtle Points: 1088
  • Male Posts: 9,756
  • Member since Oct '04
    • View Profile
Re: BFG M/T KM1 - How old is too old?
« Reply #12 on: Jan 10, 2018, 10:20:28 PM »
They are an oil based product.  The oils evaporate over time and the tires lose their integrity.  I can’t tell you how many stubborn old men have come back to the shop with a hangdog look on their face after a tire we told them was too old for service blew out.  As has been suggested, I would strongly discourage selling them
RIP KYOTA

You can go through life being scared of the possible, or you can have a little fun and tease the inevitable.

Give a man venison, he'll eat for a day. Teach a man to hunt Blacktail, he'll be frustrated for life!

the_white_shadow

  • Offline Crawler Guru
  • ****
  • Turtle Points: -7
  • Posts: 498
  • Member since Jul '08
    • View Profile
Re: BFG M/T KM1 - How old is too old?
« Reply #13 on: Jan 22, 2018, 08:12:43 AM »
I got one that ill include as a spare. lol.

Seriously though, i wish that they wouldnt have discontinued that tread pattern. They look great on our old trucks.

kneedownnate

  • Offline Gold Turtle Award
  • *
  • Turtle Points: 1088
  • Male Posts: 9,756
  • Member since Oct '04
    • View Profile
Re: BFG M/T KM1 - How old is too old?
« Reply #14 on: Jan 22, 2018, 09:54:46 PM »
Have you looked at the new falken mt?
RIP KYOTA

You can go through life being scared of the possible, or you can have a little fun and tease the inevitable.

Give a man venison, he'll eat for a day. Teach a man to hunt Blacktail, he'll be frustrated for life!

 
 
 
 
 

Related Topics

4 Replies
1147 Views
Last post Mar 29, 2020, 02:05:47 PM
by dbl-low
10 Replies
1893 Views
Last post Oct 05, 2020, 10:14:44 PM
by Russ86
0 Replies
550 Views
Last post Dec 16, 2020, 03:07:37 PM
by Speed
3 Replies
931 Views
Last post Feb 22, 2021, 03:23:33 AM
by Gnarly4X
2 Replies
537 Views
Last post Nov 23, 2022, 04:45:30 PM
by Rocksurfer