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Re: ToyBrota's 85 Xtracab Build up.
« Reply #90 on: Oct 01, 2017, 10:03:51 PM »
You could us plumbing but it would probably last just as long as jb weld, brazing rod would be the best thing to use.

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Re: ToyBrota's 85 Xtracab Build up.
« Reply #91 on: Oct 01, 2017, 10:05:23 PM »
You could us plumbing but it would probably last just as long as jb weld, brazing rod would be the best thing to use.
Okay cool, I'll get on that tomorrow. Probably gonna have to drain it again. I'm pretty good at soldering and some principles carry over.

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Re: ToyBrota's 85 Xtracab Build up.
« Reply #92 on: Oct 01, 2017, 10:16:22 PM »
Just swap to a decent v6 radiator while its all out. Putting all this time into a 4cyl is lame. It takes like 3 minutes to redrill holes.
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Re: ToyBrota's 85 Xtracab Build up.
« Reply #93 on: Oct 02, 2017, 04:20:58 AM »
Just swap to a decent v6 radiator while its all out. Putting all this time into a 4cyl is lame. It takes like 3 minutes to redrill holes.

There is more to it than just 3 minutes.  The V-6 radiator may have different dimensions, causing a fit problem.

Then there's the cost... 300k, do you want to donate a new V-6 radiator?

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Re: ToyBrota's 85 Xtracab Build up.
« Reply #94 on: Oct 02, 2017, 07:20:26 AM »
Aluminum after market v6 radiator less than 150 on ebay. Bolts difectly in place.
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Re: ToyBrota's 85 Xtracab Build up.
« Reply #95 on: Oct 02, 2017, 09:32:13 AM »
Aluminum after market v6 radiator less than 150 on ebay. Bolts difectly in place.
I'll look into that, I might try the plumbing solder fix. My heater does work now! Works pretty darn good too

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Re: ToyBrota's 85 Xtracab Build up.
« Reply #96 on: Oct 02, 2017, 10:35:18 AM »
There is more to it than just 3 minutes.  The V-6 radiator may have different dimensions, causing a fit problem.

Then there's the cost... 300k, do you want to donate a new V-6 radiator?

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Theres a video on YouTube...pretty straight forward. Clamp your 4cyl rad to the v6 rad with the radiator caps even with each other, use paint pen to mark where the holes are on the 4cyl, unclamp, drill. Faster than messing with solder.

As for price, go to a junkyard and grab one out of a 2nd gen 4runner.
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Re: ToyBrota's 85 Xtracab Build up.
« Reply #97 on: Oct 02, 2017, 10:37:15 AM »
I'll have to see what the junk yard has, I assume the V6 rad has better cooling.... Right? Only makes sense. I know there's no such thing as a dumb question but that one felt dumb.

There's always 4Runners at my local pick n pull.

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Re: ToyBrota's 85 Xtracab Build up.
« Reply #98 on: Oct 02, 2017, 10:41:58 AM »
I'll look into that, I might try the plumbing solder fix. My heater does work now! Works pretty darn good too

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I have fixed a couple with solder and it holds up fine. I think it was just 50/50 tin/lead solder? I use mapp gas, I burned a hole in one with an oxy acetylene torch one time. make sure to get it clean, clean, clean.
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Re: ToyBrota's 85 Xtracab Build up.
« Reply #99 on: Oct 02, 2017, 10:42:32 AM »
There's a few 90's 4Runner near me. I'd really like a new one, because with my luck in pick n pull, I'd put it in, and find out it leaks...

Maybe I'll try the solder thing first, if that doesn't work then I'll get a junk one.

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Re: ToyBrota's 85 Xtracab Build up.
« Reply #100 on: Oct 02, 2017, 10:45:36 AM »
I'll have to see what the junk yard has, I assume the V6 rad has better cooling.... Right?



Its a junkyard upgrade to a 3 core instead of a 2 core. It depends on your climate. If youre in the desert or a mildly warm place with a lot of hills, V6 all the way.  If it gets real cold, your heater might not be as warm.
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Re: ToyBrota's 85 Xtracab Build up.
« Reply #101 on: Oct 02, 2017, 10:47:03 AM »
Its a junkyard upgrade to a 3 core instead of a 2 core. It depends on your climate. If youre in the desert or a mildly warm place with a lot of hills, V6 all the way.  If it gets real cold, your heater might not be as warm.
I live in Salt Lake, and it's getting pretty cold. I'll just stick to the stock one. If I can't fix it, I'll just get a new one.

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Re: ToyBrota's 85 Xtracab Build up.
« Reply #102 on: Oct 03, 2017, 10:07:38 AM »
So I got a great build idea while I was in the shower (best ideas come to me this way)

Hear me out. I wanna take a Toyota one ton full float dually axle, and put it under my truck, and put 5.29's with 33X10.5s. Dually 33's

Why you may ask? Because doesn't it seem kinda bad ass? Low gearing with those tires, could actually pull stuff. And a flat bed.

Anyways, just a dumb idea I had. Thought it would be sick.

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Re: ToyBrota's 85 Xtracab Build up.
« Reply #103 on: Oct 03, 2017, 10:25:56 AM »
I say, do it. But I also say, think long and hard before doing it with a G52 in your truck.

By all I hear, the G52 was almost the second weakest transmission Toyota ever put in a truck. At least, I'd put a W56 in there before getting too crazy with what I pulled. Better yet, find a R150F/R151F and use a 22RTE bell housing to bolt it up to your motor.

This is purely my opinion based on things I have read. Perhaps somebody with actual experience of Toyota transmission strengths would like to weigh in?

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Re: ToyBrota's 85 Xtracab Build up.
« Reply #104 on: Oct 03, 2017, 10:27:26 AM »
I say, do it. But I also say, think long and hard before doing it with a G52 in your truck.

By all I hear, the G52 was almost the second weakest transmission Toyota ever put in a truck. At least, I'd put a W56 in there before getting too crazy with what I pulled. Better yet, find a R150F/R151F and use a 22RTE bell housing to bolt it up to your motor.

This is purely my opinion based on things I have read. Perhaps somebody with actual experience of Toyota transmission strengths would like to weigh in?

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Exactly, the G52 is weak. I'm on my second one.

It's purely an idea at the moment, I think it would be overkill and awesome.

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Re: ToyBrota's 85 Xtracab Build up.
« Reply #105 on: Oct 10, 2017, 10:33:41 AM »
Anyone wanna help me identify this noise? It's so weird. Sorry for the noisy valves. I gave up caring with the damn aluminum rockers.

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Re: ToyBrota's 85 Xtracab Build up.
« Reply #106 on: Oct 10, 2017, 10:39:28 AM »
Take the belt off and see if the noise is still there. I think it could be the upper idler bearing.
after the belt is off spin everything with your hand and see if you can make out any noise.
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Re: ToyBrota's 85 Xtracab Build up.
« Reply #107 on: Oct 10, 2017, 10:41:40 AM »
Take the belt off and see if the noise is still there. I think it could be the upper idler bearing.
after the belt is off spin everything with your hand and see if you can make out any noise.
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Re: ToyBrota's 85 Xtracab Build up.
« Reply #108 on: Oct 10, 2017, 10:55:31 AM »
Take the belt off and see if the noise is still there. I think it could be the upper idler bearing.
after the belt is off spin everything with your hand and see if you can make out any noise.
Did that, took off the power steering belt. Noise persists.

Removed the water pump and alternator belt (only ran for 15 seconds) noise goes away.

Water pump spins freely as it should. Alternator on the other hand, is obviously making the noise. I just replaced it too. Parts store stuff is garbage.

It's been making noises since I put it in, but it's been getting worse. Maybe a few shots of WD40 into it might displace any water or whatever.


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Re: ToyBrota's 85 Xtracab Build up.
« Reply #109 on: Oct 10, 2017, 10:57:58 AM »
Did that, took off the power steering belt. Noise persists.

Removed the water pump and alternator belt (only ran for 15 seconds) noise goes away.

Water pump spins freely as it should. Alternator on the other hand, is obviously making the noise. I just replaced it too. Parts store stuff is garbage.

It's been making noises since I put it in, but it's been getting worse. Maybe a few shots of WD40 into it might displace any water or whatever.


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Was belt on too tight?

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Re: ToyBrota's 85 Xtracab Build up.
« Reply #110 on: Oct 10, 2017, 10:59:18 AM »
Try compressed air and blowing it into the Alt. Don't put WD in there.
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Re: ToyBrota's 85 Xtracab Build up.
« Reply #111 on: Oct 10, 2017, 11:00:14 AM »
I doubt its a moisture issue. What your dealing with more than likely is cheap bearingsfrom the parts house cheapo rebuild.
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Re: ToyBrota's 85 Xtracab Build up.
« Reply #112 on: Oct 10, 2017, 11:07:28 AM »
I doubt its a moisture issue. What your dealing with more than likely is cheap bearingsfrom the parts house cheapo rebuild.
Exactly what I'm thinking. The belt is on looser than when I took it off, still has good play. I'd kill for a denso alternator. But the money on that....

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Re: ToyBrota's 85 Xtracab Build up.
« Reply #113 on: Oct 10, 2017, 11:12:40 AM »
Exactly what I'm thinking. The belt is on looser than when I took it off, still has good play. I'd kill for a denso alternator. But the money on that....

Try eBay. I got a used Denso alternator for $30 there... New would be better, but I bet a good used Denso would outlast a parts store reman unit.


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Re: ToyBrota's 85 Xtracab Build up.
« Reply #114 on: Oct 10, 2017, 11:22:35 AM »
Have any u pull it yards around? I have had my factory densos rebuilt at a local shop and requested timken bearings be installed.
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Re: ToyBrota's 85 Xtracab Build up.
« Reply #116 on: Oct 10, 2017, 11:29:37 AM »
Check with this guy.
http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=102455.0
Alrighty will do, I got side tracked with a coolant hose leak. I definitely want a nice alternator when I build my motor.

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Re: ToyBrota's 85 Xtracab Build up.
« Reply #117 on: Oct 10, 2017, 12:31:40 PM »
Was belt on too tight?

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Re: ToyBrota's 85 Xtracab Build up.
« Reply #118 on: Oct 10, 2017, 12:35:05 PM »
Okay, side tracked with a more important issue.

The water outlet on the timing cover that is for the heater hose leaks, I did the timing chain and cover about 10K miles ago, in fact, a bolt was MISSING from the outlet pipe.

Walking right now to the auto parts store (walk of shame...) To get some silicone sealer and a gasket kit for the timing cover. The thing is, the outlet shares the gasket with the timing cover gasket on the right side, I'm not tearing the timing cover off, so I plan to cut that section of gasket out and replace it with a new cut section with silicone smeared on both sides. What do you think?



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Re: ToyBrota's 85 Xtracab Build up.
« Reply #119 on: Oct 10, 2017, 12:57:24 PM »
Hopefully I can get this thing back in service in a couple hours.

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