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Re: ToyBrota's 85 Xtracab Build up.
« Reply #270 on: Mar 23, 2018, 07:33:52 AM »
Thanks for the support!!

The most challenging part will be the body work.
I have thought about sourcing a cheap 2WD truck to replace my body with, but I am just gonna tough it and paint it and do some rust repair myself.

Since the sheet metal on these is fairly thin, I can get away with a fairly cheap welder.

Heres what she looks like now:

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Re: ToyBrota's 85 Xtracab Build up.
« Reply #271 on: Mar 23, 2018, 07:35:28 AM »
I'm keeping the 31's, Might go back to 29's later.
Since I don't have any of my old leafs left, I have to purchase those new, I am pretty confident I can get all of the suspension components for $500 or less. Glad I kept that stock drag link!

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Re: ToyBrota's 85 Xtracab Build up.
« Reply #272 on: Mar 25, 2018, 01:07:35 PM »
Picked up a bench seat, it's out of a 94 Toyota Pickup. Direct bolt in, no modifications!

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Re: ToyBrota's 85 Xtracab Build up.
« Reply #273 on: Mar 25, 2018, 06:30:20 PM »
Have to lose all the 16 year old kid stickers and get a stock t case shorter now that your deciding to go restoration.
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Re: ToyBrota's 85 Xtracab Build up.
« Reply #274 on: Mar 26, 2018, 10:27:56 AM »
the bench is the way to go. been a long time since ive been in the 2nd gen scene. But i know there are bench seats that are direct bolt in that have a drop down center armrest/center console.

nice find though, that one looks clean
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Re: ToyBrota's 85 Xtracab Build up.
« Reply #275 on: Mar 26, 2018, 11:06:12 AM »
Maybe consider some OME springs with a leaf pulled out to loose the slight lift.  They are a pretty good price for what they are.  When I have looked for new stock style springs they actually cost more.
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Re: ToyBrota's 85 Xtracab Build up.
« Reply #276 on: Mar 27, 2018, 09:07:15 PM »
Maybe consider some OME springs with a leaf pulled out to loose the slight lift.  They are a pretty good price for what they are.  When I have looked for new stock style springs they actually cost more.
Agreed, I like the idea of the OME springs. I have been looking on the local classifieds for some!

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Re: ToyBrota's 85 Xtracab Build up.
« Reply #277 on: Mar 27, 2018, 09:08:02 PM »
Have to lose all the 16 year old kid stickers and get a stock t case shorter now that your deciding to go restoration.
What 16 year old kid stickers? My Marlin sticker isn't going anywhere!

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Re: ToyBrota's 85 Xtracab Build up.
« Reply #278 on: Mar 30, 2018, 11:49:13 AM »
Got the winch bumper off, sold it to a guy for $520 with the grille off of his 85' 4Runner.

Painted the frame and exposed parts, hopefully picking up another radiator today! Probably will be a V6 rad...

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Re: ToyBrota's 85 Xtracab Build up.
« Reply #279 on: Mar 30, 2018, 02:23:40 PM »
Sold the bumper today. $500 and I got his old grille. Which is off of his 85' Runner.

Went to the junkyard to get some bolts for the factory bumpers that arrives this next week.

There was 3 first generation 4Runners there, look at that A-Pillar rust!! And how clean that quarter pannel is....

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Re: ToyBrota's 85 Xtracab Build up.
« Reply #280 on: Apr 10, 2018, 10:10:49 AM »
Here's a highlight from my trip last weekend, Moab.
Didn't do any wheeling, this trip was for riding.

My current Motorcycle is a Honda XR650R, makes about 60HP and is the most fun I've ever had on two wheels. I ended up doing hell's Revenge, a lot of fun on motorcycles. My truck could do most of the trail.

Both bikes plus all the camping crap equalled about 1,000 pounds, with 31's and stock gears she did pretty good.

   

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Re: ToyBrota's 85 Xtracab Build up.
« Reply #281 on: Apr 10, 2018, 09:34:44 PM »
Living the dream! Ever since I bought my 16 Tacoma I've been missing my 1st Gen runner. Comfort can never out do the character those trucks have.

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Re: ToyBrota's 85 Xtracab Build up.
« Reply #282 on: Apr 10, 2018, 09:45:57 PM »
Interior all clean and shiny...

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Re: ToyBrota's 85 Xtracab Build up.
« Reply #283 on: Apr 10, 2018, 10:33:10 PM »
Living the dream! Ever since I bought my 16 Tacoma I've been missing my 1st Gen runner. Comfort can never out do the character those trucks have.

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This is a common statement from people who make the mistake.
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Re: ToyBrota's 85 Xtracab Build up.
« Reply #284 on: Apr 10, 2018, 10:34:18 PM »
This is a common statement from people who make the mistake.
I see it a lot, just tonight a guy in a SAS'd Tacoma offered to buy my truck. The look and character is what makes people love them so much, even over a clearly more capable rig.


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Re: ToyBrota's 85 Xtracab Build up.
« Reply #285 on: Apr 11, 2018, 09:17:13 AM »
Itís amazing how beloved they are.
I canít drive my 4runner to the gas station without having someone come over to tell Me how much they like it and wish they had one or wish they had never sold theirs. The only thing I can compare it to is a classic car.
I am telling you itís only a matter of time before We start to see reproduction parts available.
There is to big of a following and to much love for it not to happen.
I am 1/5th of Perfect Fit
SqWADoosh [04:19 PM]: *sigh* I guess Chris is right and I just need to wait until I'm in a place where I have a tow rig and trailer before I get this caliber of truck
Mudder [08:28 PM]:   not try to be a jerk, but are you serious bestgen?
Prismo [06:11 PM]:   Done, time to relax or as Bestgen says....FREEDOM!
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Re: ToyBrota's 85 Xtracab Build up.
« Reply #286 on: Apr 11, 2018, 09:18:16 AM »
Itís amazing how beloved they are.
I canít drive my 4runner to the gas station without having someone come over to tell Me how much they like it and wish they had one or wish they had never sold theirs. The only thing I can compare it to is a classic car.
I am telling you itís only a matter of time before We start to see reproduction parts available.
There is to big of a following and to much love for it not to happen.
Reproduction parts... Oh man I wish.

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Re: ToyBrota's 85 Xtracab Build up.
« Reply #287 on: Apr 11, 2018, 09:23:24 AM »
Almost every part is available now. What more could you ask for?
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Re: ToyBrota's 85 Xtracab Build up.
« Reply #288 on: Apr 11, 2018, 09:26:29 AM »
Almost every part is available now. What more could you ask for?
Weld in floor pans for a 1st Gen pickup.....

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Re: ToyBrota's 85 Xtracab Build up.
« Reply #289 on: Apr 11, 2018, 09:32:01 AM »
Goodluck. I doubt that will ever happen. Just hit the junk yard.
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Re: ToyBrota's 85 Xtracab Build up.
« Reply #290 on: Apr 11, 2018, 09:32:16 AM »
Almost every part is available now. What more could you ask for?
Weld in floor pannels for 2nd Gen pickups.
Replacement A pillars?
Aftermarket gauge clusters that don't cost an arm and a leg would be cool. Factory AC parts, if a company came together with a full kit, I'd buy it.

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Re: ToyBrota's 85 Xtracab Build up.
« Reply #291 on: Apr 11, 2018, 09:35:49 AM »
A pillars? Junk yards are loaded with them. Why after market clusters? They are easy to rebuild. What ac parts arent available? I've done many 1st and 2nd gen ac systems only had 1 short 90į fitting for 1st gen I couldn't get.
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Re: ToyBrota's 85 Xtracab Build up.
« Reply #292 on: Apr 11, 2018, 09:40:06 AM »
A pillars? Junk yards are loaded with them. Why after market clusters? They are easy to rebuild. What ac parts arent available? I've done many 1st and 2nd gen ac systems only had 1 short 90į fitting for 1st gen I couldn't get.
A pillars that are rust free. Sure, many of these parts are available now, but look at how many trucks are disappearing. It's only a matter of time.
Hell, even California trucks can have A pillars rust.
Just a thought. The stock AC systems aren't that amazing, but higher efficiency stuff. Imagine a "Vintage Air" type system designed for 4-cylinder trucks like ours.

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Re: ToyBrota's 85 Xtracab Build up.
« Reply #293 on: Apr 11, 2018, 09:41:08 AM »
Goodluck. I doubt that will ever happen. Just hit the junk yard.
Idk where you live, but in Colorado it's impossible to find good pans on a 1st Gen. I even have yota Jim about an hour away

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Re: ToyBrota's 85 Xtracab Build up.
« Reply #294 on: Apr 11, 2018, 09:41:18 AM »
It also doesn't help when junkyards won't let you bring saws in.

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Re: ToyBrota's 85 Xtracab Build up.
« Reply #295 on: Apr 11, 2018, 09:42:49 AM »
I'm sure many of us would rather support a business that makes floorpans and what not than cut up an old truck. It's been almost two years since I've seen a First Gen in a junk yard.

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Re: ToyBrota's 85 Xtracab Build up.
« Reply #296 on: Apr 11, 2018, 09:51:47 AM »
My first gen floor pans are in great shape. I also haven't seen one in a junkyard in years.
Time to go wheelin!

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Re: ToyBrota's 85 Xtracab Build up.
« Reply #297 on: Apr 14, 2018, 03:08:39 PM »
Factory style front bumper is installed.

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Re: ToyBrota's 85 Xtracab Build up.
« Reply #298 on: Apr 18, 2018, 02:40:44 PM »
And it appears my transmission needs to come out. Again. The rear main leaks, I've known about it for awhile but never really cared.
Until I saw that the front balancer seal is leaking as well.

Lucky me, I have all the gaskets and seals required to do this job.

Went ahead and order some seal savers from LCE and an oil pan bolt set. Hopefully, my clutch isn't too soaked in oil.

Normally I'd just not care about these, but I'm departing for Colorado soon. I want my truck to not leak.

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Re: ToyBrota's 85 Xtracab Build up.
« Reply #299 on: Apr 21, 2018, 07:41:31 AM »
And it appears my transmission needs to come out. Again. The rear main leaks, I've known about it for awhile but never really cared.
Until I saw that the front balancer seal is leaking as well.

Lucky me, I have all the gaskets and seals required to do this job.

Went ahead and order some seal savers from LCE and an oil pan bolt set. Hopefully, my clutch isn't too soaked in oil.

Normally I'd just not care about these, but I'm departing for Colorado soon. I want my truck to not leak.


Hmmmmm.... I'm having trouble with "..not care about these... " ??  But... to each his own.

I am ANAL about leaks.. .I hate leaks!!

When a rear main engine seal starts leaking, usually the crankcase oil gets on the clutch disc and it will start slipping.  Most often the clutch disc will need to be replaced.

It's been my experience that proper and conscientious maintenance on these old trucks will get you many more miles and save on repair and replacement costs, as well as trail failures.  Over the years I've seen many times a vehicle on the trail stuck, broken, or dead simply because the owner does not care about good maintenance.

By the way, just a suggestion.... if you drop the tanny, you might want to consider replacing the input shaft seal and housing gasket.  If you decided to replace the input shaft seal, I highly recommend you buy the Toyota seal.  I used Permatex Thread Sealer on the bolts, and Ultra Grey on the gasket - per Permatex.

That's just my opinion - it may be worthless.

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