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Re: ToyBrota's 85 Xtracab Build up.
« Reply #240 on: Dec 12, 2017, 09:20:44 AM »
Between Vegas and Barstow, I've not burnt any oil. Full in Vegas, full now. Maybe the diesel oil does something after all? Oil pressure seems good too.

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Re: ToyBrota's 85 Xtracab Build up.
« Reply #241 on: Dec 12, 2017, 01:00:25 PM »
Annnnnd we made it! Ocean Beach San Diego.

Truck did just fine, between mesquite Nevada and here the oil level remained at full, I topped it off with rotella, the weather down here is pretty warm and I don't get as good of oil pressure as I did in Salt Lake, so a thicker oil will help.

As for security, I have the hidden keyed kill switch, won't tell where it is but it's well hidden.

And I also took the steering wheel off and brought it into the place I'm staying. She should be fine!

Spent a total of $150 in gas, not bad, but not great. But she isn't a Prius anyways.

Would love to meet up with some other Yota guys, while my truck is nothing to boast about I'd love to see more trucks like mine down here.

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Re: ToyBrota's 85 Xtracab Build up.
« Reply #242 on: Dec 12, 2017, 01:12:45 PM »
I like the wreath  :thumbs:
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Re: ToyBrota's 85 Xtracab Build up.
« Reply #243 on: Dec 12, 2017, 01:13:33 PM »
I like the wreath  :thumbs:
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Re: ToyBrota's 85 Xtracab Build up.
« Reply #244 on: Dec 13, 2017, 02:59:27 PM »
Enjoying the sunny San Diego weather, and being festive, while decorating cookies.




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Re: ToyBrota's 85 Xtracab Build up.
« Reply #245 on: Dec 13, 2017, 03:07:15 PM »
Driving down the coast

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Re: ToyBrota's 85 Xtracab Build up.
« Reply #246 on: Dec 13, 2017, 03:18:53 PM »
Would love to meet up with some other Yota guys, while my truck is nothing to boast about I'd love to see more trucks like mine down here.

Nice... how long are you in town?
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Re: ToyBrota's 85 Xtracab Build up.
« Reply #247 on: Dec 13, 2017, 03:22:52 PM »
Keep an eye on this link:  https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/sd-thursday-night-brewery-meets-12-21-tbd.473545/

We get together at a different brewery each week in the San Diego area, check out trucks, throw a couple back and talk trucks.
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Re: ToyBrota's 85 Xtracab Build up.
« Reply #248 on: Dec 13, 2017, 03:24:06 PM »
Keep an eye on this link:  https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/sd-thursday-night-brewery-meets-12-21-tbd.473545/

We get together at a different brewery each week in the San Diego area, check out trucks, throw a couple back and talk trucks.
I leave Friday night, they usually frown upon 18 year olds drinking here :/

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Re: ToyBrota's 85 Xtracab Build up.
« Reply #249 on: Dec 13, 2017, 03:25:48 PM »
Yeah, that doesn't work but you don't have to drink beers.
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Re: ToyBrota's 85 Xtracab Build up.
« Reply #250 on: Dec 13, 2017, 04:08:53 PM »
Between Vegas and Barstow, I've not burnt any oil. Full in Vegas, full now. Maybe the diesel oil does something after all? Oil pressure seems good too.

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Hey... great news....  :thumbs:

I'm enjoying your trek and trip reports. :biggthumpup:

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Re: ToyBrota's 85 Xtracab Build up.
« Reply #251 on: Dec 13, 2017, 04:12:53 PM »
Hey... great news....  :thumbs:

I'm enjoying your trek and trip reports. :biggthumpup:

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Hey thanks, I figured if something goes wrong I might as well document it and show what you don't do.

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Re: ToyBrota's 85 Xtracab Build up.
« Reply #252 on: Dec 13, 2017, 04:13:11 PM »
I leave Friday night, they usually frown upon 18 year olds drinking here :/

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Drinking and driving and getting caught can be VERY costly.. even if you have Utah plates.

My ex-boss's 25 year old son, got caught driving under extreme DUI... interesting story... but bottomline, his Dad paid out of pocket $25,000 when all said and done.  He could not drive for 1 year.  Then had to have a device to check for alcohol before his car would start.

Oh yeah... the DPS officers handcuffed him and he went straight to jail.

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Re: ToyBrota's 85 Xtracab Build up.
« Reply #253 on: Dec 13, 2017, 04:15:13 PM »
Drinking and driving and getting caught can be VERY costly.. even if you have Utah plates.

My ex-bosses 25 year old son, got caught driving under extreme DUI... interesting story... but bottomline, his Dad paid out of pocket $25,000 when all said and done.  He could not drive for 1 year.  Then had to have a device to check for alcohol before his car would start.

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Yeah I'm not about drinking and driving, I do drink with my friends but we never drive, of course being so young out tolerance is super low compared to those that are older than us.


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Re: ToyBrota's 85 Xtracab Build up.
« Reply #254 on: Dec 13, 2017, 04:17:13 PM »
Oh what I would give to be 18 and making road trips in a Toyota again.
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Re: ToyBrota's 85 Xtracab Build up.
« Reply #255 on: Dec 13, 2017, 04:20:13 PM »
Oh what I would give to be 18 and making road trips in a Toyota again.
It's the best time of my life, hours upon hours in my truck, racking up hundreds of miles... Nothing is better than blasting some Led Zeppelin riding through death valley.

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Re: ToyBrota's 85 Xtracab Build up.
« Reply #256 on: Dec 13, 2017, 04:33:02 PM »
Oh what I would give to be 18 and making road trips in a Toyota again.

Yeah... my very best road trips have been in my Toyota trucks!  :thumbs:

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« Reply #257 on: Dec 13, 2017, 04:38:58 PM »
Yeah... my very best road trips have been in my Toyota trucks!  :thumbs:

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There's just something about old Toyota's... Back when Toyota's slogan was "Oh what a feelin"
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Re: ToyBrota's 85 Xtracab Build up.
« Reply #258 on: Dec 14, 2017, 08:16:47 AM »
It's the best time of my life, hours upon hours in my truck, racking up hundreds of miles... Nothing is better than blasting some Led Zeppelin riding through death valley.

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Re: ToyBrota's 85 Xtracab Build up.
« Reply #259 on: Dec 16, 2017, 07:41:50 AM »
Made it to mesquite Nevada with no troubles, didn't burn any oil.

However, my starter nearly fell out, the bolts got super loose. There was a nice little drip trail of oil on the ground where I parked, I assume the rear main leaks, slings oil in the bell housing and then drips. It came out of the clutch fork boot. It tasted and looked like oil too, so no tranny troubles.  I can't imagine it being an actual problem, oil pressure lines all good and tight, no other leaks. If my rear main leaks it tells me there is oil, which is good.

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Re: ToyBrota's 85 Xtracab Build up.
« Reply #260 on: Dec 16, 2017, 08:21:40 AM »
OH crap... time to drop the tranny!!  :willynilly:

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Re: ToyBrota's 85 Xtracab Build up.
« Reply #261 on: Dec 16, 2017, 08:29:21 AM »
OH crap... time to drop the tranny!!  :willynilly:

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Won't be the first time... I just wish I had done it while I had it out when I replaced the transmission. Not a big deal, it's just a rear main seal.

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Re: ToyBrota's 85 Xtracab Build up.
« Reply #262 on: Dec 16, 2017, 09:34:24 AM »
Won't be the first time... I just wish I had done it while I had it out when I replaced the transmission. Not a big deal, it's just a rear main seal.

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Re: ToyBrota's 85 Xtracab Build up.
« Reply #263 on: Dec 16, 2017, 01:27:53 PM »
Back in salt lake... Time for my after trip report!

Truck did just fine, other than topping off the oil on the way there, I didn't have to add any on the way back. Kinda strange, oil level stayed the same from San Diego to Salt Lake City.
Unusual for me.

Not really any mechanical problems, my starter just about fell out, I noticed it was super loose upon checking for leaks when I left Nevada.
Grabbed a 14MM and tightened it up.

The oil pressure is weird, I have fantastic oil pressure here but not so stellar in California, maybe the change in elevation makes the gauge read funky? Possible...

And for some odd reason my timing might be off by a few degrees, again I think it's elevation dependant? Down in California it pings pretty bad under load when it doesn't here. From Nevada down they have 87 octane vs. the 85 in Salt Lake, maybe it makes enough of a difference.

Other than the weird things, my truck ran great as expected. The freeways in California are crazy compared to those in Salt Lake, good practice.

Now it's time to plan the next trip! Canada maybe?...

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Re: ToyBrota's 85 Xtracab Build up.
« Reply #264 on: Dec 17, 2017, 04:58:58 PM »
I would expect timing to advance at lower elevations, under a vacuum advance system like our 22Rs have. As far as I know, the vacuum advance detects engine vacuum relative to outside air pressure, and depending on how the system is set up more atmospheric pressure might be indistinguishable from increased engine vacuum.

Or it might be set up so that timing advance is independent of elevation. Did you check your engine timing when you were in San Diego?

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Re: ToyBrota's 85 Xtracab Build up.
« Reply #265 on: Dec 17, 2017, 10:11:25 PM »
I would expect timing to advance at lower elevations, under a vacuum advance system like our 22Rs have. As far as I know, the vacuum advance detects engine vacuum relative to outside air pressure, and depending on how the system is set up more atmospheric pressure might be indistinguishable from increased engine vacuum.

Or it might be set up so that timing advance is independent of elevation. Did you check your engine timing when you were in San Diego?
I didn't check the timing, but the pinging was very noticeable. I might have a vacuum leak, who knows! It runs and drives and does so pretty well so I am not worried about the timing, I remember having it set pretty good 8 months ago.


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Re: ToyBrota's 85 Xtracab Build up.
« Reply #266 on: Feb 09, 2018, 08:35:57 AM »
That time of year again, I have quite a few things I need to do to my truck soon for this summer.

The rear main seal, is so far gone that I wouldn't even call it a seal...

It leaks really badly, so that needs to be addressed. My main concern is that it has soaked into the clutch, no slippage, and it still feels as good as the first day I installed it. My flywheel wasn't the best last time I had it out, I have a flywheel off of an older 22R I might use.


In addition to that, my carrier bearing has about an inch of play in all directions. And, the rear pinion has about an inch of play BEFORE is engages the ring gear. Beautiful!! Might as well re-gear to 4:88's while I am at it. Pretty high for 31's, but I could run 35's almost perfectly with that high of a re-gear.


Here's essentially the list of mechanical crap to do, more for my use of referring to it when I have nothing to do on a weekend and need something to do.

-Rear main seal

-Oil pan seal

-carrier bearing

-3rd member rebuild

-re-gear (rear first)

-Valve adjustment a few times

-Adjust valves again

-Drink beer

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Re: ToyBrota's 85 Xtracab Build up.
« Reply #267 on: Mar 23, 2018, 01:17:50 AM »
After some heavy consideration, I've decided to restore my truck. To factory.

I've enjoyed how my truck has been off road wise, but I have come to the conclusion that I want to fix all the rust, dents, and un-lift it to factory.

I'm currently selling my winch and bumper, and I'm going to be buying a complete suspension set up. Stock height of course.

Some would say it's crazy, and I would agree. But these trucks are getting harder and harder to come by in a stock configuration.
There seems to be way more rock crawler Toyota's than stock ones, especially 85's.
I can always purchase someone else's complete crawler project. But a truck that is factory fresh? Don't really think so.

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Re: ToyBrota's 85 Xtracab Build up.
« Reply #268 on: Mar 23, 2018, 03:07:47 AM »
After some heavy consideration, I've decided to restore my truck. To factory.


Hey Toybrota,

I'm behind you 100%!!  :beerchug:

Yes, these trucks are getting rare.  My 1986 is very rare, because it almost entirely original and with very low mileage.  It is in incredibly good condition for being 33 years old.  I decided after I started my engine rebuild that I'd keep it as stock and as original as reasonable. 

Good for you!  :biggthumpup:

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Re: ToyBrota's 85 Xtracab Build up.
« Reply #269 on: Mar 23, 2018, 05:57:13 AM »
I'm behind you all the way, and I agree with your logic. Plus, it seems that once people start upgrading one thing it just moves the point of breakage somewhere else. If you keep chasing that stuff, before you know it you've built a rock crawler and spent thousands of dollars.

I look forward to updates and pictures; let's start a "stock not rock crawlers" club.