Topic: 22re full rebuild

[sassparilla_kid]

I dig I dig

[sassparilla_kid [OP]]

Got the engine mostly torn down today! Time to start ordering new parts I guess

[fireitup]

Got the engine mostly torn down today! Time to start ordering new parts I guess

Pictures!

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[sassparilla_kid [OP]]

Okay here's the truck

[Jarhead]

Wow I was actually thinking I wanted to put a turbo in my 22re 4runner. But after all the replies on the thread I posted and these I'll stick to what I have for now.

[sassparilla_kid [OP]]

Wow I was actually thinking I wanted to put a turbo in my 22re 4runner. But after all the replies on the thread I posted and these I'll stick to what I have for now.

Yeah for me the extra 15hp isn't worth the hassle of a turbo, although if I lived someplace other than California and didn't have to deal with smog laws I might keep it but run it with megasquirt to get all of it's potential

[sassparilla_kid [OP]]

More pictures!

Parts stockpile


Rebuilt head


And one torn down 22re

[sassparilla_kid [OP]]

And one scuffed up cylinder, although they all appear to be in pretty similar condition

[sassparilla_kid [OP]]

So this is about how cylinders 2 and 3 measured (side to side), 3.6265" although I calibrated the bore gauge with a set of calipers (Mitutoyo) so not quite as accurate as if I had set it with micrometers, so almost .027" over. Front to back they were about .024" over. Cylinders 1 and 4 were both about .0245" over side to side and .022" front to back. So, I think I'll probably end up boring .040" over to be safe

[sassparilla_kid [OP]]

Wait, I might not have to go that much over bore, just read elsewhere on the interwebs that a 22re std bore diameter is 3.622", is that right? Because that would only put me .0045" over and I can say the wear in the cylinders looks and especially feels worse than that. Guess I'll have to check the manual and see what it says

[sassparilla_kid [OP]]

Nothin left of that guide, was in about 40,000 pieces in the oil pan

[fireitup]

Stupid plastic chain guides...

Where'd you get your timing chain cover?

 

[Gnarly4X]

If I could do my rebuild over, I'd go .060" on the over bore.   

The stock bore is 92 mm  or 3.62205 inches.

Gnarls.

[Gnarly4X]

Stupid plastic chain guides...

 

I have given high praise to the Toyota engineers who designed the 22s.  BUT...they were drinking way too much sake when they were designing the plastic timing chain guides.

The German engineers who designed the VW bug also built an incredible vehicle..... but they got anxious about wanting to test drive it when they designed the gear shifter..... they were obviously drinking way too much vodka!!

Gnarls.

[sassparilla_kid [OP]]

Stupid plastic chain guides...

Where'd you get your timing chain cover?

 

I found it on Amazon, along with the oil pump, water pump, abbr gasket kit. I think everything else is gonna be ordered from LCE though

[sassparilla_kid [OP]]

Okay more pictures!

All but maybe one main bearing was spun (by their conditions by varying amounts of time)...


And all rod bearings were spun!! Do I win some kind of prize yet!?!?

So I think I'll probably end up getting a new crank and new rods, because these are all destroyed beyond repair

 

[Gnarly4X]

I don’t know the history of this truck, but whenever I see photos of a Toyota engine in this condition, I immediately ask “WHY”?  Why would someone drive a vehicle and NOT do preventative maintenance on it?  Yes, catastrophic component failure does happen, but neglect and stupidity destroys more engines.  I think it’s common knowledge that you have to work really hard to kill a Toyota truck.

Regarding your camshaft choice.  What have you decided?  I’m just curious.

Keep up the good progress.

Gnarls.

[sassparilla_kid [OP]]

I don’t know the history of this truck, but whenever I see photos of a Toyota engine in this condition, I immediately ask “WHY”?  Why would someone drive a vehicle and NOT do preventative maintenance on it?  Yes, catastrophic component failure does happen, but neglect and stupidity destroys more engines.  I think it’s common knowledge that you have to work really hard to kill a Toyota truck.

Regarding your camshaft choice.  What have you decided?  I’m just curious.

Keep up the good progress.

Gnarls.

Yeah I don't know any of the history of the engine either, just bought it as a core to rebuild. The guy I got it from said it ran but only well enough to get it on and off a trailer, and he bought the truck for the cab to replace his after it rolled. As for cam selection, I haven't really decided yet. Maybe this week I'll make a spreadsheet comparing the stock cam to some of my other choices, and I still need to look a little more into cam theory to better understand what all of the lift/duration/overlap numbers mean

[Gnarly4X]

Yeah I don't know any of the history of the engine either, just bought it as a core to rebuild. The guy I got it from said it ran but only well enough to get it on and off a trailer, and he bought the truck for the cab to replace his after it rolled. As for cam selection, I haven't really decided yet. Maybe this week I'll make a spreadsheet comparing the stock cam to some of my other choices, and I still need to look a little more into cam theory to better understand what all of the lift/duration/overlap numbers mean

Hey sassparilla_kid,

I should have clarified... I did not mean to imply in any way that YOU were the bad-boy!

I'll be VERY interested in the information you post on anything on camshafts!

Gnarls.

[sassparilla_kid [OP]]

Been lagging on this, hopefully I can get back to it next month. Been too busy at work, trying to fix up the boat I just picked up,  and also have been paying more attention to my NEW '17 Tacoma  (I started a thread about it in the other forum if anybody is interested)

[Gnarly4X]

Been lagging ...... been paying more attention to my NEW '17 Tacoma...

Is it sitting in ramps because you are washing the oil pan?? 

Gnarls. 

[sassparilla_kid [OP]]

Haha no I had a bunch of dirt in the bed that turned in to mud when I started washing the truck and pulling it up on ramps was the easiest way to get the bed to drain as I was housing it out

[cporche]

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The engine must be the same year or newer than the vehicle.
The engine must be from the same type of vehicle (passenger car, light-duty truck, heavy-duty truck, etc.) based on gross vehicle weight.
If the vehicle is a California certified vehicle then the engine must also be a California certified engine.
All emissions control equipment must remain on the installed engine.
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Gnarls.

Ok i had a thought once tesla model 3's start hitting the roads some will be crashed, one could potentially buy a wrecked model 3 convert a vehicle to electric and skirt all smog checks from that point forward. Perform any engine swap one would want as you would never need a smog again. Sell the model 3 drive train to someone else who also wants to perform a similar swap.

[Gnarly4X]

Haha no I had a bunch of dirt in the bed that turned in to mud when I started washing the truck and pulling it up on ramps was the easiest way to get the bed to drain as I was housing it out

Yeah... I figured you were washing out the bed.  I did the same thing after hauling 1/2 ton of sand in the bed.  I drove the front end up on a 4x4 in my driveway, which has a slant to it.   It made it quicker to hose out the sand.

Gnarls.

[sassparilla_kid [OP]]

I have pistons (hypereutectic, +.020") and forged chromoly connecting rods ordered from LCE, hopefully they come in tomorrow because the block gets to ride around in the back of my truck until I have a chance to take it in to be bored/decked. Fortunately the machine shop is only five minutes from work

[sassparilla_kid [OP]]

Block is back from the machine shop, now to wait for some bottom end parts to come in so I can start reassembly. I'd post some more pictures but photobucket doesn't allow it anymore 

[sassparilla_kid [OP]]

Okay have all bearings, new pistons (hypereutectic), connecting rods (forged chromoly h beam), and new crank in hand, just ordered a pro torquer cam from lce and adjustable cam gear, maybe next weekend I'll get to start the reassembly process

[sassparilla_kid [OP]]

Crank, rods, pistons are in. Next weekend hopefully the head and timing stuff will go on

[H8PVMNT]

Photos, pictures, images and pics.

[OVRAROK]

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