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Slider Install Help
« on: Dec 01, 2016, 07:11:23 AM »
Anyone got any photos of how they installed their sliders to the frames of their rigs? So far I have creeped Excabswaps instagram pretty hard and hes in the process of doing this now. Basically he has welded the slider end to some steel plate then the trusses to the plate. then the plate gets welded to the frame.


I bought the sliders from marlins site so the legs say they are pre welded. Any photos help greatly!

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Re: Slider Install Help
« Reply #1 on: Dec 01, 2016, 07:39:30 AM »


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Re: Slider Install Help
« Reply #2 on: Dec 01, 2016, 07:54:09 AM »
So you just welded them to the frame? not extra plate in between? Have any issues so far?



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Re: Slider Install Help
« Reply #3 on: Dec 01, 2016, 08:02:45 AM »
So you just welded them to the frame? not extra plate in between? Have any issues so far?




There's a egg shape 3/16 plate between frame and tube and gussets. I welded plate, tube and gusset first, c-clamped them up there. figured out where I wanted them, i actually notched my body pinch weld off to get them up tight, just my preference, then after cutting tubes down to my liking, I tacked tubes onto slider, pulled down welded around, them welded plate to frame. no issues to date
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Re: Slider Install Help
« Reply #4 on: Dec 01, 2016, 08:12:36 AM »
Awesome, I need to run and grap some plating as this seems to be the way that everyone is suggesting me do it. Im going to get it painted up this week and then try and get them welded up next week. Since its cold my paint is taking FOREVER to dry on everything

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Re: Slider Install Help
« Reply #5 on: Dec 01, 2016, 02:31:22 PM »
If you haven't replaced them yet, replace your body mounts, and leave an 1/8" or so clearance between the slider and the cab.  The cab moves enough that it will rattle on the sliders even with new mounts, worse w/old ones.

You can weld them on as ovrarok did, or weld a stub onto the frame that the slider mounts slide into or over, and bolt them on.


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Re: Slider Install Help
« Reply #6 on: Dec 02, 2016, 06:23:22 AM »
I bolt mine on with a "U" shaped clamp in four spots. Requires 1" BL to do it this way.
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Re: Slider Install Help
« Reply #7 on: Dec 02, 2016, 06:42:41 AM »
I didnt even think of trying to mount them in a way that would make them removable. You guys is wicked smaat

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Re: Slider Install Help
« Reply #8 on: Dec 02, 2016, 10:17:05 AM »
I just used some thick angle iron to wrap around the frame for a lil extra support between the tubes and frame


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Re: Slider Install Help
« Reply #9 on: Dec 02, 2016, 12:55:34 PM »
That's a good idea on the angle iron, seeing as the frame has a similar curve to it as the angle piece
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Re: Slider Install Help
« Reply #10 on: Dec 05, 2016, 06:37:03 AM »
I just used some thick angle iron to wrap around the frame for a lil extra support between the tubes and frame



I think Im going to go with this route, It seems a lot easier than cutting the diamonds out of steel and everything. This way I can still weld on the upper gussets too. Thanks man!

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Re: Slider Install Help
« Reply #11 on: Dec 08, 2016, 07:19:19 PM »
I think Im going to go with this route, It seems a lot easier than cutting the diamonds out of steel and everything. This way I can still weld on the upper gussets too. Thanks man!
If you mean a gusset from the top of the slider to the frame, it isn't needed, you will never put enough downward force on them to be an issue.
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Re: Slider Install Help
« Reply #12 on: Dec 08, 2016, 08:05:14 PM »
Really? My kit came with them. Figured I'd need to weld em on

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Re: Slider Install Help
« Reply #13 on: Dec 08, 2016, 08:13:31 PM »
I would def install the upper gussets. I personally have came down pretty hard on mine and have slightly bent them. I would suggest the way OVRAROK did his. The longer gussets looks a lot stronger than the shorter ones.


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Re: Slider Install Help
« Reply #14 on: Dec 08, 2016, 08:28:52 PM »
I would use gussets for round tube, but don't think it would be necessary if you're using square tube.
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Re: Slider Install Help
« Reply #15 on: Dec 08, 2016, 11:50:06 PM »
If you mean a gusset from the top of the slider to the frame, it isn't needed, you will never put enough downward force on them to be an issue.

What about after you flip your truck and use the sliders as an attachment point to put the truck right side up?


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Re: Slider Install Help
« Reply #16 on: Dec 09, 2016, 06:44:48 AM »
What about after you flip your truck and use the sliders as an attachment point to put the truck right side up?


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Im plannning on using the gussets, even if I never have to use them Its better to have then to not

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Re: Slider Install Help
« Reply #17 on: Dec 15, 2016, 09:35:15 PM »
What about after you flip your truck and use the sliders as an attachment point to put the truck right side up?


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If you don't have an exo-cage, I think bending your sliders is going to be the least of your concerns. :yupyup:

Kidding aside, I would think the frame or welds would give before you could put enough leverage to bend a 4-5" section of 1.5-2" x .125 or thicker tube.
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Re: Slider Install Help
« Reply #18 on: Dec 15, 2016, 09:57:52 PM »
If you don't have an exo-cage, I think bending your sliders is going to be the least of your concerns. :yupyup:

Kidding aside, I would think the frame or welds would give before you could put enough leverage to bend a 4-5" section of 1.5-2" x .125 or thicker tube.
Mine bent? With gussets....not a large amount, but enough for me to notice. No cracks on the welds, just bent. Enough force of Mother Nature and gravity will do things beyond beliefs lol


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Re: Slider Install Help
« Reply #19 on: Dec 15, 2016, 11:07:15 PM »
Mine bent? With gussets....not a large amount, but enough for me to notice. No cracks on the welds, just bent. Enough force of Mother Nature and gravity will do things beyond beliefs lol


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Agree, force can due some strange things, but the amount of force it takes to bend that small of a section of steel would be very hard to come-bye wheeling. How are your sliders designed?
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Re: Slider Install Help
« Reply #20 on: Dec 16, 2016, 07:15:06 AM »
Nothing special, thinking about it....I guess it will also depend on the length of the  tubing that connects to the frame? I didn't suck mine in underneath extremely. I wanted a small amount to be able to use as a step and what not. So maybe that's why they tweaked a little. And I'll tell you it has saved me a lot of body damage being where i placed them lol. I'll take a pic and post. And maybe they are cheap steel? TG.....I have never had a problem with any of there things, but who knows.


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Re: Slider Install Help
« Reply #21 on: Dec 19, 2016, 05:44:06 PM »
If you mean a gusset from the top of the slider to the frame, it isn't needed, you will never put enough downward force on them to be an issue.
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Re: Slider Install Help
« Reply #22 on: Dec 19, 2016, 07:44:13 PM »
Oh really !!

That is your outer rail, I was referring to the slider to frame mounts, that are only about 4-6" long when using a 2 rail slider design w/the inner rail running along the pinch weld.

It looks like you have/had an inch or so clearance between the slider and rocker, did you bend any of these mounts when you bent the outer rail?

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Re: Slider Install Help
« Reply #23 on: Dec 20, 2016, 06:10:39 AM »
No, because they have a gussets on them!!
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« Reply #24 on: Dec 20, 2016, 05:34:05 PM »
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Re: Slider Install Help
« Reply #25 on: Dec 22, 2016, 06:48:44 AM »
I think im going to add the gussets, mainly because I have them lol. I still havent gotten them installed. I can not find large enough angle iron. Might have to order some

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Re: Slider Install Help
« Reply #26 on: Dec 23, 2016, 07:15:11 PM »
I go to a steel supplier/fabrication business in Sacramento and go through their remnant stock, they sell it pretty cheap!!
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