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Re: need help fast... Pittbull Rockers
« Reply #60 on: Nov 17, 2016, 03:04:21 PM »
Guess it didn't work for me


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Re: need help fast... Pittbull Rockers
« Reply #61 on: Nov 17, 2016, 03:10:55 PM »
My truck weighs in at a little over 4,000. I'm not saying your wrong, I'm just wondering if there was another problem with the tires. The KM2's do clean out nicely in the mud I think.

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Re: need help fast... Pittbull Rockers
« Reply #62 on: Nov 18, 2016, 08:54:31 AM »
My truck weighs in at a little over 4,000. I'm not saying your wrong, I'm just wondering if there was another problem with the tires. The KM2's do clean out nicely in the mud I think.
Yes in the mud it cleaned very well!


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Re: need help fast... Pittbull Rockers
« Reply #63 on: Nov 18, 2016, 09:27:58 AM »
No votes for the Procomp mudders? Price is right and I can't say a bad thing about mine.
And Yes I know they have changed the tread pattern.
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Re: need help fast... Pittbull Rockers
« Reply #64 on: Nov 18, 2016, 11:58:02 AM »
No votes for the Procomp mudders? Price is right and I can't say a bad thing about mine.
And Yes I know they have changed the tread pattern.

I don't think they get great street reviews, but that's the least of your issues for street driving...
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Re: need help fast... Pittbull Rockers
« Reply #65 on: Nov 18, 2016, 12:46:28 PM »
Almost bought the pro comp MTs but they came out $80 more for the set

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Re: need help fast... Pittbull Rockers
« Reply #66 on: Nov 18, 2016, 01:43:52 PM »
I don't know if we should trust Bestgen's advice on tires, after all if he drives to fast his truck will shake apart  ;)

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Re: need help fast... Pittbull Rockers
« Reply #67 on: Nov 18, 2016, 01:53:06 PM »
I don't think they get great street reviews, but that's the least of your issues for street driving...

I have run the pro comp mud terrain, x terrain and xtreme mt. They were all pretty smooth. The xtreme mt were great. They were smooth, quiet, and hooked up really well.  I would not hesitate to run them again
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Re: need help fast... Pittbull Rockers
« Reply #68 on: Nov 18, 2016, 03:54:26 PM »
I have run the pro comp mud terrain, x terrain and xtreme mt. They were all pretty smooth. The xtreme mt were great. They were smooth, quiet, and hooked up really well.  I would not hesitate to run them again
Had the same experience with a set of 35 Xterrains, good trail and street manners, just on the soft side for any amount of DD driving.
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Re: need help fast... Pittbull Rockers
« Reply #69 on: Nov 19, 2016, 11:04:34 AM »
Aren't those the Xterrains Chris?

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Re: need help fast... Pittbull Rockers
« Reply #70 on: Nov 19, 2016, 01:53:11 PM »
I had 35" xterrains and i thought they were horrible. Fwiw

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Re: need help fast... Pittbull Rockers
« Reply #71 on: Nov 19, 2016, 06:03:30 PM »
Aren't those the Xterrains Chris?
Yep, xterrains are what I got now. Came on the truck when I got it.
I think I will get those swamper sx tires or pit bull when it's time.
Going to wear these out completely first.
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Re: need help fast... Pittbull Rockers
« Reply #72 on: Nov 19, 2016, 06:04:09 PM »
I had 35" xterrains and i thought they were horrible. Fwiw
Tell us more Ding. Why?
I am 1/5th of Perfect Fit
SqWADoosh [04:19 PM]: *sigh* I guess Chris is right and I just need to wait until I'm in a place where I have a tow rig and trailer before I get this caliber of truck
Mudder [08:28 PM]:   not try to be a jerk, but are you serious bestgen?
Prismo [06:11 PM]:   Done, time to relax or as Bestgen says....FREEDOM!
HogCanyonHopper [06:54 PM]:   I like my little rod. it gets the job done
H8PVMNT [03:30 PM]: I can go both ways.

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Re: need help fast... Pittbull Rockers
« Reply #73 on: Nov 19, 2016, 08:12:13 PM »
Yep, xterrains are what I got now. Came on the truck when I got it.
I think I will get those swamper sx tires or pit bull when it's time.
Going to wear these out completely first.

The sx are rad.
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Re: need help fast... Pittbull Rockers
« Reply #74 on: Nov 19, 2016, 08:52:23 PM »
I'd like to see a head to head comparison between KM2s, trxus and pro comps.. aired down to 9 psi

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Re: need help fast... Pittbull Rockers
« Reply #75 on: Nov 19, 2016, 08:52:49 PM »
Head to head to head* haha

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Re: need help fast... Pittbull Rockers
« Reply #76 on: Nov 19, 2016, 09:47:22 PM »
Tell us more Ding. Why?

I was not impressed with their traction offroad at all.  I felt i struggled much more with them than the toyos, iroks or the current mtr's i have

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Re: need help fast... Pittbull Rockers
« Reply #77 on: Nov 21, 2016, 09:43:07 AM »
I swear, the tire decision is the most annoying choice on the build. Parts were easy. Kits were easy. Tires are a major PITA. If it were a trail only rig that would be a different story.

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« Reply #78 on: Nov 21, 2016, 10:04:05 AM »
I swear, the tire decision is the most annoying choice on the build. Parts were easy. Kits were easy. Tires are a major PITA. If it were a trail only rig that would be a different story.

you cant go wrong with the MTR, or the BFG even the pro comp MT2 is a great tire.
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« Reply #79 on: Nov 21, 2016, 10:13:36 AM »
I swear, the tire decision is the most annoying choice on the build. Parts were easy. Kits were easy. Tires are a major PITA. If it were a trail only rig that would be a different story.

First question when choosing tires.  :think:
What is your percentage of pavement vs off road?
Then next question is what kind of off road will you do the most. (Mud?, True rock crawling?)
Mine is 5% pavement 95% offroad. My next consideration is sidewall damage. Our trails here have things (tree roots) sticking out all over just waiting for the opportunity to take out a side wall.  :twocents:
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Re: need help fast... Pittbull Rockers
« Reply #80 on: Nov 21, 2016, 10:16:16 AM »
First question when choosing tires.  :think:
What is your percentage of pavement vs off road?
Then next question is what kind of off road will you do the most. (Mud?, True rock crawling?)
Mine is 5% pavement 95% offroad. My next consideration is sidewall damage. Our trails here have things (tree roots) sticking out all over just waiting for the opportunity to take out a side wall.  :twocents:

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Re: need help fast... Pittbull Rockers
« Reply #81 on: Nov 21, 2016, 11:20:45 AM »
First question when choosing tires.  :think:
What is your percentage of pavement vs off road?
Then next question is what kind of off road will you do the most. (Mud?, True rock crawling?)
Mine is 5% pavement 95% offroad. My next consideration is sidewall damage. Our trails here have things (tree roots) sticking out all over just waiting for the opportunity to take out a side wall.  :twocents:

For the first year or two, it will be 80%road and 20% offroad. Im only hoping to DD it for another year or so. I dont go in the mud unless the trail is muddy, and I try to avoid that. I mostly wheel in the rocks. The rocks down here are a little different than yalls, lots of dirt and rocks between, nothing like rubicon or moab but a good amount of rock mixed with dirt. Lots of hill climbs.

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Re: need help fast... Pittbull Rockers
« Reply #82 on: Nov 21, 2016, 11:37:07 AM »
To Me that sure sounds like what All-terrain tires are made for.
Have you considered All-terrains? BFG makes The best in My opinion.
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Prismo [06:11 PM]:   Done, time to relax or as Bestgen says....FREEDOM!
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Re: need help fast... Pittbull Rockers
« Reply #83 on: Nov 21, 2016, 11:38:18 AM »
BFG KO2 would be my recommendation. Will work very well for what you need.

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« Reply #84 on: Nov 21, 2016, 11:58:27 AM »
For the first year or two, it will be 80%road and 20% offroad. Im only hoping to DD it for another year or so. I dont go in the mud unless the trail is muddy, and I try to avoid that. I mostly wheel in the rocks. The rocks down here are a little different than yalls, lots of dirt and rocks between, nothing like rubicon or moab but a good amount of rock mixed with dirt. Lots of hill climbs.

The fact that I'm seriously considering putting a set of BFG KO2's on my 2004 Sequoia tell you something about how much I expect from the street performance of these tires.  I would never choose to run an AT on a wheeling rig unless the plan was nearly 100% slickrock in Moab.  The advantages of an MT in mud are far more important than the benefits of an AT on the street.  You're doing a full Toyota build with lockers, dual ultimate gearing, etc., so choose a tire that's a match for the potential of the rest of your truck.

You really can't make a bad decision between the BFG KM2, Cooper STT Pro, Goodyear MTR, Nitto Terra Grappler (yes I added another option to screw with you), Pro Comp, etc. 

I have never been a fan of the MTR, but know they are an excellent choice.  My choice was between the BFG KM2 and the Cooper STT PRO.

BFG KM2 - The two factors that kept me from getting the BFGs were the look and the fact that the tread pattern is just a variation of the Krawler that was developed for hardcore rock crawling.  It doesn't make sense to me that the Krawler is a great place to start the design for a tire that is well suited for the street or even mud.  To me the design is all about having a street tire that looks like the Krawler which means "bling" was high on the list.

Cooper STT PRO - I ended up choosing this tire because CrankyCrawler has been very satisfied with his Cooper STTs and since our driving styles are very similar and our rigs are built very similarly it seems that I would be happy with a Cooper tire.  The STT PRO is a complete redesign that has a nice looking pattern and if it outperforms the original STT it should do great.

Nitto Terra Grappler - This is a very popular tire in my area, right behind the Toyo Open Country MT.  My biggest beef with Nitto is the "bling" of having two different sidewalls.  It's makes me think that they have placed looks too high on the list of features.  I'm sure it's a non-issue.  These tires also just look like they would ride rough even though they get solid reviews.

If you're really  interested in an AT, the only one that I would consider is the Toyo Open Country AT Extreme.  This has the AT tread pattern with significantly more tread depth.  It only comes in limited sizes, but the few that I have seen in person looked sweet.
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Re: need help fast... Pittbull Rockers
« Reply #85 on: Nov 21, 2016, 12:25:16 PM »
Buy a set of KM2s, then find a $40 set of rollers.

That way during the 80% daily driving time you won't be wasting away your KM2s.

This is what I'm doing, but there's other options.. like running A/Ts haha

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Re: need help fast... Pittbull Rockers
« Reply #86 on: Nov 21, 2016, 12:43:45 PM »
Buy a set of KM2s, then find a $40 set of rollers.

That way during the 80% daily driving time you won't be wasting away your KM2s.

This is what I'm doing, but there's other options.. like running A/Ts haha

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if you are doing that may as well get something super aggressive
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« Reply #87 on: Nov 21, 2016, 03:48:34 PM »
Buy a set of KM2s, then find a $40 set of rollers.

That way during the 80% daily driving time you won't be wasting away your KM2s.

This is what I'm doing, but there's other options.. like running A/Ts haha

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I ran my BFG KMs for 9 years and put close to 30,000 miles on them and still had around 50% tread.  Truly wearing them out isn't and issue in my opinion.  They may not wear evenly but such is the life of an off road tire.   
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Re: need help fast... Pittbull Rockers
« Reply #88 on: Nov 21, 2016, 08:10:58 PM »
To Me that sure sounds like what All-terrain tires are made for.
Have you considered All-terrains? BFG makes The best in My opinion.

I've got them now. In a 33 inch flavor

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« Reply #89 on: Nov 21, 2016, 08:11:51 PM »
if you are doing that may as well get something super aggressive

Trep bias ply? Hmmm. (My favorite tire ever)

 
 
 
 
 

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