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Tig Welding
« on: Apr 04, 2016, 07:16:59 PM »
So awhile ago I bought a Lincoln 210 MP Mig. Its a good mig welder, but it is capable of tig welding. You have to buy and install a foot pedal plug and some other goodies, but it will do it. I have never tig welded before so don't laugh to hard. This machine uses lift start.





Pulled the machine apart to install the plug.







All back together.



First tig weld... FAIL



Second no filler.





Fusion but weld.



Now with filler.



After a few hours.



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« Last Edit: Apr 06, 2016, 11:56:09 PM by zippo »
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Re: Tig Welding
« Reply #1 on: Jun 08, 2016, 08:54:48 AM »
second one looked good. try turning ur amperage down a bit.
i went with the miller matic so i could use a finger amp control. the Lincoln you have the gas control and finger control staked on top each other

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Re: Tig Welding
« Reply #2 on: Jun 08, 2016, 11:15:53 AM »
glad to see someone else taking up the TIG addiction.  cant wait to see how you like that machine long term.

couple tips for learning:
-ditch the pedal until you are comfortable with the torch and filler and can lay a clean weld. you really dont need it on that thick of steel
-dont use filler rod until you have practiced enough without it to lay down good clean consistent fillerless welds.
- thick material is more forgiving than thin. keep practice between 1/8" and 1/4" until you are comfortable.

use those tips to help you crawl before you try and run and learning will go smoother.

also youtube "walking the cup"  i find this practice to be much easier to stay consistent than freehand.

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Re: Tig Welding
« Reply #3 on: Jun 08, 2016, 11:45:11 AM »
I love TIG! A little advice, get as comfortable as possible before sparking it up, get the metal as CLEAN as you possibly can and just take your sweet time. Just takes a lot of patience/practice. Also, try to dedicate one grinding wheel to sharping the tungsten so it doesn't get contaminated with other junk.
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Re: Tig Welding
« Reply #4 on: Jun 11, 2016, 03:22:10 PM »
Personally I don't like big welding on steel, its weird to me
But Id get a 1/16h red tungsten
get .045 filler rod.
clean len on your hood.
foot pedal all the way.
Dr.Maxwe001 – well i have a 15 gal compressor now and if I gett he 60  and then use the 15 as a reserve that wil give me 75 gal  thats close to 80 isnt it ?

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Re: Tig Welding
« Reply #5 on: Jun 13, 2016, 07:52:06 AM »
I use a linisher to sharpen tips, I prefer the button end, with also allows you to cut tungsten in half, so you spend less time sharping,
Get yourself a little jar and sharpen a few at a time,
My first was a scratch start, good for beginners but the ark marks get to be a pain to buff when you get better and like showing off the welds
Pedal I would turn it off, too much to do at start, and many don't use them, I would in the industry for 20 years this year and none of the welders at my work use them nor the last 8 shops I have worked at, they have either buttons on the gun or nothing
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Re: Tig Welding
« Reply #6 on: Jun 13, 2016, 06:47:54 PM »
So I havent had to time to play, but things got better. I hate lift arc and want to get a HF start.



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Re: Tig Welding
« Reply #7 on: Jun 13, 2016, 09:57:12 PM »
Looks good.
You will get used to lift arc, just takes time. Lift arc is all we use at work.

I was also learning some tig today. Decided to try my hand at tigging some copper. Copper is tough.

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Re: Tig Welding
« Reply #8 on: Jun 13, 2016, 10:24:53 PM »
The biggest problem i have is the tungsten wants to stick when I try and lift it. Then I'm fighting it and when it let's loose, I slam it back into the steel and then I'm regrinding.

I also really want auto gas control. Nothing worse the forgetting to turn the gas on at the torch head You have to clean your work and regrind
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Re: Tig Welding
« Reply #9 on: Jun 14, 2016, 07:22:38 PM »
I use a linisher to sharpen tips, I prefer the button end, with also allows you to cut tungsten in half, so you spend less time sharping,
Get yourself a little jar and sharpen a few at a time,
My first was a scratch start, good for beginners but the ark marks get to be a pain to buff when you get better and like showing off the welds
Pedal I would turn it off, too much to do at start, and many don't use them, I would in the industry for 20 years this year and none of the welders at my work use them nor the last 8 shops I have worked at, they have either buttons on the gun or nothing
Kiss method

thats funny, I've never worked at a shop that didn't use a pedal.
Id never weld without one, no control over your weld
Dr.Maxwe001 – well i have a 15 gal compressor now and if I gett he 60  and then use the 15 as a reserve that wil give me 75 gal  thats close to 80 isnt it ?

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Re: Tig Welding
« Reply #10 on: Jun 16, 2016, 09:44:37 AM »
Yep no peddle down here, must be an Aussie thing, we either scratch start with manual gas, or hf, most hf start torches can dial up or down or programmed for on/off only so no need for peddle

Must stuff down here we can't get cirt with tig only, so we use it for root runs on pipe, then LH rods with ark and cap with iron power rods, yep 3 passes as a min on pipe

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Re: Tig Welding
« Reply #11 on: Jun 17, 2016, 02:42:26 PM »
thats funny, I've never worked at a shop that didn't use a pedal.
Id never weld without one, no control over your weld

i manage crews of sanitary welders for the food and beverage industry and have never seen a pedal used by any of them. not practical for the field, only at bench welding.  you control the weld by movement speed and knowledge of previous welds that are similar materials and thickness. you should try welding in a pipe rack with a pedal.

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Re: Tig Welding
« Reply #12 on: Jun 17, 2016, 04:36:24 PM »
Looking good zippo! im practicing to! ill post up some pics..

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Re: Tig Welding
« Reply #13 on: Jun 17, 2016, 07:02:49 PM »
i manage crews of sanitary welders for the food and beverage industry and have never seen a pedal used by any of them. not practical for the field, only at bench welding.  you control the weld by movement speed and knowledge of previous welds that are similar materials and thickness. you should try welding in a pipe rack with a pedal.

Ive been welding for 10 years, I use a pedal, Id never do it without, I know how to control a puddle thanks
Ive welding on 18 gauge and up stuff
Dr.Maxwe001 – well i have a 15 gal compressor now and if I gett he 60  and then use the 15 as a reserve that wil give me 75 gal  thats close to 80 isnt it ?

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Re: Tig Welding
« Reply #14 on: Jun 17, 2016, 09:53:53 PM »
pedal here..


Blaaaahhhhhhhh

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Re: Tig Welding
« Reply #15 on: Jun 22, 2016, 01:18:58 AM »
Ive been welding for 10 years, I use a pedal, Id never do it without, I know how to control a puddle thanks
Ive welding on 18 gauge and up stuff


Is that bench or site work
Sitting down at bench with a rotator welding pipe would be a breeze with a peddle
Try that when your laying on your back welding over head or wedged in-between A matching install or repairing a something, it just doesn't happen, and that's a big resion for use not using them, we have 2 types of welders (no machines people's) normally shop and site, shop welders get about 1/2 the pay compared to site welders, your skill lever is tested a lot more with engineering on the move required so Inturn better pay,

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Re: Tig Welding
« Reply #16 on: Jun 22, 2016, 01:24:48 AM »
pedal here..

Blaaaahhhhhhhh

Do you weld left Handed?

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Re: Tig Welding
« Reply #17 on: Jun 22, 2016, 08:51:25 AM »
Do you weld left Handed?

no, just some of the very first welds i have ever done.

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Re: Tig Welding
« Reply #18 on: Jul 06, 2016, 08:06:09 PM »

Is that bench or site work
Sitting down at bench with a rotator welding pipe would be a breeze with a peddle
Try that when your laying on your back welding over head or wedged in-between A matching install or repairing a something, it just doesn't happen, and that's a big resion for use not using them, we have 2 types of welders (no machines people's) normally shop and site, shop welders get about 1/2 the pay compared to site welders, your skill lever is tested a lot more with engineering on the move required so Inturn better pay,

I've used a pedal sitting down on the ground, in a boat , in a tight area
I just put the pedal under my knee, use my arm, or prop it how I need it.
I can always find a way. Plus I can weld so many things I need one.
One minute I'm doing 18 gauge stainless the next 1/4 steel then aluminum

Dr.Maxwe001 – well i have a 15 gal compressor now and if I gett he 60  and then use the 15 as a reserve that wil give me 75 gal  thats close to 80 isnt it ?

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Re: Tig Welding
« Reply #19 on: Dec 09, 2016, 10:13:43 AM »
yeah im with junya92 on this one pedal 100%
Hell ive used the same hand im holding the torch with to pedal as well. Its all about hood time.. fyi the HF start will be a night and day change

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Re: Tig Welding
« Reply #20 on: Oct 14, 2020, 05:26:00 AM »
TIG Welding is very important welding type. During the tig welding various risks are involved. We should use tig welding helmetshttps://myweldingyard.com/best-tig-welding-helmet/. I'm very happy most people in our welding yard use it. Few random guys are the exceptional case.

 
 
 
 
 

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