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Re: BFGoodrich All Terrain KO2 35x12.50 15 Review
« Reply #60 on: Dec 07, 2016, 08:21:41 AM »
I don't want to be a dink on this review, so everybody reading please note:  I RUN A SPOOL IN THE REAR!

Literally everybody not running a spool will get much more miles out of these than I am getting.  I would estimate 25%-30% more miles based on my experiences in the past.  If I get 30K most guys running open rears or auto lockers should get an easy 40K. 

Maybe more if you run them on a 10" wheel.

Comparing these to the old BFGs I've ran I still say they won't last quite as stupidly long though.  This is probably OK since most guys were rotting out sidewalls before their tread was gone :).
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Re: BFGoodrich All Terrain KO2 35x12.50 15 Review
« Reply #61 on: Dec 07, 2016, 12:02:22 PM »
True but we like the way the spooled rear handles on dirt.  Weird I know.

You are correct though it totally pencils out.

I understand that a spool will eliminate any transitions between drive and coast, but I don't think that having an automatic locker in the rear would be objectionable on the dirt.  I assume that you have run an automatic locker and based on your experience have made a choice?  You could almost justify the cost of a selectable locker and then just lock it up to be a spool when you're on the dirt.
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Re: BFGoodrich All Terrain KO2 35x12.50 15 Review
« Reply #62 on: Dec 07, 2016, 12:51:37 PM »
I've ran lock-rites, Detroit and aussies.  Aussie is my favorite, I thought detroits were the best by design but even my wife likes driving the spooled rears better in town, inclement weather and dirt than any of them.  You get the screeching tires but you never get the bangity-bang-buck snort-pop of the lock rite or the creeeeek-BANG of the Detroit.

The aussie is he smoothest I found by far and that's what we have in all our front ends.  I would gladly run one of those in the rear but the Detroit is SO much stronger for the rear.

To tell the truth I don't really mind any of the noise or quirks of the auto lockers, I just like the handling quirks of the spool. I also love the no moving parts. I know I am alone here.

I started the nonsense of welded and spooled rears due to lack of funds and need for traction, but we have found them to be fun and favorable to drive other than the tire scrub.  In the ice you get all this control of how much your rear end hangs out and you can snap it back into straight just letting off the throttle.  Auto lockers kind of do this too, but not as crisp. You can do a controlled crab on snow drifted roads in the deep snow.  I just like them.

One day I will probably do an e-locker or something good.  I'm just waiting for a local deal to land in my lap.  Right now all our extra coin goes to the kid's medical expenses and I also have to somehow re-fit my pickup over the next 6 months so we can deal with the spools for a while longer :).

What would help is if we could quit putting 30K miles a year on my 4runner!

I don't want to turn this into one of the locker/spool threads. 

In summary: You guys are right.  Anything is better for all around driving than a spool.  Burning through 5 BGFs in 30K miles is a prime example of why this is true.
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Re: BFGoodrich All Terrain KO2 35x12.50 15 Review
« Reply #63 on: Dec 07, 2016, 08:18:33 PM »
Literally everybody not running a spool will get much more miles out of these than I am getting

No they won't!  Absolute worst complaint I receive on them is how quickly they wear.  I've seen em down to bald in less than 15k, and I can barely recall anybody getting over 30k on them, though I have a customer who claims he got over 50k.  I still think he was recalling the older KO, not the KO2
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Re: BFGoodrich All Terrain KO2 35x12.50 15 Review
« Reply #64 on: Dec 07, 2016, 08:44:31 PM »
No they won't!  Absolute worst complaint I receive on them is how quickly they wear.  I've seen em down to bald in less than 15k, and I can barely recall anybody getting over 30k on them, though I have a customer who claims he got over 50k.  I still think he was recalling the older KO, not the KO2

They also have bad cracking in the tread on some of the other sizes. Couple threads over on Ih8Mud about it.

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Re: BFGoodrich All Terrain KO2 35x12.50 15 Review
« Reply #65 on: Dec 07, 2016, 09:38:09 PM »
I've seen the threads but haven't seen it on the tires, and we see a pretty fair volume of them.  Thinking it was maybe an early production thing, like how the early goodyear duratracs had lots of sidewall issues.  If I remember, I'll try to get a count of how many ko2 come through the shop one day and maybe a full week, just for kicks-n-giggles

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Re: BFGoodrich All Terrain KO2 35x12.50 15 Review
« Reply #66 on: Dec 08, 2016, 05:02:40 AM »
No they won't!  Absolute worst complaint I receive on them is how quickly they wear.  I've seen em down to bald in less than 15k, and I can barely recall anybody getting over 30k on them, though I have a customer who claims he got over 50k.  I still think he was recalling the older KO, not the KO2

What do you consider to be an equivalent tire for overall performance that would last longer?
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Re: BFGoodrich All Terrain KO2 35x12.50 15 Review
« Reply #67 on: Dec 08, 2016, 07:38:43 AM »
Interesting to hear on the mileage.  Glad I'm not the only one.

All the older BFG ATs I ran I also ran with spools or at least lunchbox lockers and they did wear considerably longer. I'm not horribly disappointed in how these are wearing but it's just notable based on my experience that these tires aren't lasting as long as the older style.

My carcasses are a little less round than I would have liked on this set but I don't have any cracking or anything so overall quality I am OK with.

With the dirt, snow and ice performance I am seriously considering running these again anyway.  Ideally I would love to have a set of MTs for spring and summer and a set of these for winter.  It was super ice on the way to work again today and these things are just like running a dedicated snow tire on road ice.
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Re: BFGoodrich All Terrain KO2 35x12.50 15 Review
« Reply #68 on: Dec 08, 2016, 07:15:00 PM »
No they won't!  Absolute worst complaint I receive on them is how quickly they wear.  I've seen em down to bald in less than 15k, and I can barely recall anybody getting over 30k on them, though I have a customer who claims he got over 50k.  I still think he was recalling the older KO, not the KO2

Curious if the increased wear was do to the same issue that caused the cracking with the first batch of tires.  I noticed my new KO2's seem to be stickier on the pavement than the KO's, I find myself taking corners faster w/less squeal than before.  If they only last 15k, I will be fine, they will likely only get 2-3k miles/yr.
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Re: BFGoodrich All Terrain KO2 35x12.50 15 Review
« Reply #69 on: Dec 11, 2016, 12:17:20 PM »
What do you consider to be an equivalent tire for overall performance that would last longer?

That's the hard part, I really don't.  Duratracs are equivelant traction, but longevity seems close, sometimes better and sometimes worse.  Nitto G2 seem to last a bit longer, but them you're not quite getting the same level of off-road or snow traction.  General grabber at2 seem to last a little longer and have similar traction, but don't seem to hold their traction as well as they wear low.  Nitto has their new ridge grappler.  I've sold several sets myself and am pretty stoked on them, just no real world feedback yet.
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Re: BFGoodrich All Terrain KO2 35x12.50 15 Review
« Reply #70 on: Dec 12, 2016, 03:36:50 AM »
Went on a road trip with the tires at 25 psi this weekend and it did not effect mileage at all. I actually got 19 mpg pulling passes and corners in the mountains, best tank I ever had.  I'm not saying the lower psi and flatter footprint got better fuel economy, but it certainly didn't hurt it any.

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Re: BFGoodrich All Terrain KO2 35x12.50 15 Review
« Reply #71 on: Dec 12, 2016, 08:09:10 AM »
Went a did a bit more snow wheeling on a guys rec/cabin place on the club's "Christmas Tree Run".  His road is just roughed in and very steep, snowy with ice underneath from quads and a sled polishing it.  These tires did totally awesome.  Lost of highway ice and snow all the way there and the tires felt like they were on dry roads.  Again, the snowflake emblem is no joke.  These are champion winter tires.

The only issue I had wheeling was driver error because the second trip up the climb I chose to be in high range and actually had too much traction and powered out right at the crest of the climb.  I jammed it into low but at that point I was right on some glare ice on a steep grade at the crest and a dog leg left hand turn.  I could hold my spot but couldn't get going again.  Winch wasn't spooling in so I backed down a bit and ended up bonking a tree on the passenger side.

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Re: BFGoodrich All Terrain KO2 35x12.50 15 Review
« Reply #72 on: Dec 12, 2016, 11:43:15 AM »
Went a did a bit more snow wheeling on a guys rec/cabin place on the club's "Christmas Tree Run".  His road is just roughed in and very steep, snowy with ice underneath from quads and a sled polishing it.  These tires did totally awesome.  Lost of highway ice and snow all the way there and the tires felt like they were on dry roads.  Again, the snowflake emblem is no joke.  These are champion winter tires.

The only issue I had wheeling was driver error because the second trip up the climb I chose to be in high range and actually had too much traction and powered out right at the crest of the climb.  I jammed it into low but at that point I was right on some glare ice on a steep grade at the crest and a dog leg left hand turn.  I could hold my spot but couldn't get going again.  Winch wasn't spooling in so I backed down a bit and ended up bonking a tree on the passenger side.

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Re: BFGoodrich All Terrain KO2 35x12.50 15 Review
« Reply #73 on: Dec 12, 2016, 12:01:29 PM »
I have several..........
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Re: BFGoodrich All Terrain KO2 35x12.50 15 Review
« Reply #74 on: Dec 12, 2016, 01:51:59 PM »
You're destined to wheel with the WA boys as that's their favorite location to store their dents.

I guess I should stick my sliders out further :).
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Re: BFGoodrich All Terrain KO2 35x12.50 15 Review
« Reply #75 on: Dec 12, 2016, 04:26:27 PM »
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Re: BFGoodrich All Terrain KO2 35x12.50 15 Review
« Reply #76 on: Feb 27, 2017, 03:22:14 PM »
OK a couple months have gone by and I have retired the 4runner to my own commute and wheeling as the wife has something else to drive now. I will post mileage and tread depths again pretty soon.  We had some heavy slush and these don't cut it quite as well with less tread depth, but today I had a work trip to inspect a new home at the back of beyond with 100 miles of blowing snow pack twisty roads.  The tires on the work truck are nealy bald so I decided to take the 4runner.  The KO2s were an absolute dream.  Drifting in the drifts the whole way :).  Total ralley car experience.

I made too good of time and got back the office an hour and a half early.

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Re: BFGoodrich All Terrain KO2 35x12.50 15 Review
« Reply #77 on: Feb 27, 2017, 08:32:05 PM »
I can't yet resize pics, but I recently took a pic of a customers set on a superduty after 39,000 miles.  Had way more tread than you would think
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Re: BFGoodrich All Terrain KO2 35x12.50 15 Review
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Re: BFGoodrich All Terrain KO2 35x12.50 15 Review
« Reply #80 on: Apr 10, 2017, 02:15:39 PM »
Checked tread depth again, 23,221 miles on these tires (ODO at 222,021, mounted up tires at 198,800). 

Tread depths range from 24%-50% with an average of 40% for all five tires. 

Tread wear at this point seems to be slowing down a bit.  Not sure if the compound is harder down there or just less squirming around and scuffing at the lower tread depth.  Still AMAZING in the snow. 

Hydroplaning getting to be more of an issue as they wear down and also notably less effective in the mud as they loose tread depth.

They are hopping a bit more, probably because my lead shot is wearing down and there isn't enough loose weight in there to do a good balance.  They are of course wearing in the centers faster than they should on 8" wheels, but they are wearing pretty flat overall without a bunch of cupping.

I am going to say these would be done at 30K for my purposes but I could probably run them to 35K bald based on the math.  Again, welded rear has surely shortened the tread wear.  Consider this a performance review, not a tread wear review :).

I may be selling these off while they are still worth something in favor of some light mud terrains soon.

I am toying around with getting a set of these in the 37s for snow wheeling in the future.  They are truly a snow tire if anything.
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Re: BFGoodrich All Terrain KO2 35x12.50 15 Review
« Reply #81 on: Apr 14, 2017, 07:29:06 AM »
Wouldnt increasing your tire pressure even out the wear in the middle?
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Re: BFGoodrich All Terrain KO2 35x12.50 15 Review
« Reply #82 on: Apr 14, 2017, 08:28:16 AM »
Wouldnt increasing your tire pressure even out the wear in the middle?

I got a flatter footprint at about the mid 20s psi range but still a pretty round tread face.  30-35 psi kept me totally on the center treads.  These tires want to be pretty round on an 8" wheel. I think they need to be on 10".  Your duratracs are pretty flat on a 71x9 aren't they?
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Re: BFGoodrich All Terrain KO2 35x12.50 15 Review
« Reply #83 on: Apr 14, 2017, 12:42:06 PM »
I got a flatter footprint at about the mid 20s psi range but still a pretty round tread face.  30-35 psi kept me totally on the center treads.  These tires want to be pretty round on an 8" wheel. I think they need to be on 10".  Your duratracs are pretty flat on a 71x9 aren't they?

A 10" wheel will flatten out the tread more, allowing you to run a higher psi, you should be able to run 35psi when warm w/o rounding the tread.  I run that same psi on both my 33 AT's and 35 MT's on 15x10's, and have consistent where pattern across the tread.

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Re: BFGoodrich All Terrain KO2 35x12.50 15 Review
« Reply #84 on: Apr 17, 2017, 03:28:11 PM »
I am trying the 10" on my next set of 12.50s.  I hope they don't stick out so much that the cops are always pulling me over :)
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Re: BFGoodrich All Terrain KO2 35x12.50 15 Review
« Reply #85 on: Apr 17, 2017, 04:33:57 PM »
I am trying the 10" on my next set of 12.50s.  I hope they don't stick out so much that the cops are always pulling me over :).
Do they pull you over now with your current set-up?  What is the BS you have now w/the 8's?


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My measurements w current gen BFG's on 15x10's and mounted on rig,
Sidewall to sidewall
33" AT's= 12.75"
35" MT's= 12.75"

Distance from frame(IFS frame/axle),
w/3.5" BS=16.25"
w/2.5" BS=17.25"
 
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Re: BFGoodrich All Terrain KO2 35x12.50 15 Review
« Reply #86 on: Apr 19, 2017, 04:10:11 AM »
No I got pulled over with the 8" wheels when I had no rear bumper or flaps while under construction.  The guy really went off about it so I added the lawn edging which overlaps the tire completely.

I think I have 3.5" backspacing on the 8" and 10" wheels.  What erks me is how the big diesel guys and even the Jeep guys get away with their ENTIRE tread hanging out but I cant get away with 2".
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Re: BFGoodrich All Terrain KO2 35x12.50 15 Review
« Reply #87 on: Apr 19, 2017, 01:19:39 PM »
With as explicit as the MT law is, I would think the LEO's would be writing up those rigs daily, then again if they are like a friend of mine, they may write them based on the day they are having.  A buddy says he used to write a lot on the days he had an argument w/his wife before work, and now that he is divorced, he barely writes any.

With the mudflaps, you shouldn't have any issue with the wider rims, outside of running into a "Barney Fife" who thinks that the law is an "and" and not an "or"one.
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Re: BFGoodrich All Terrain KO2 35x12.50 15 Review
« Reply #88 on: Apr 20, 2017, 06:32:31 AM »
A 10" wheel will flatten out the tread more, allowing you to run a higher psi, you should be able to run 35psi when warm w/o rounding the tread.  I run that same psi on both my 33 AT's and 35 MT's on 15x10's, and have consistent where pattern across the tread.


On all my Toy trucks, all tire sizes, I run 25 PSI front, 22 PSI rear, unless I'm hauling, then 32/32.  35 PSI unloaded is brutally harsh on the highway.  I always had an issue with cupping on the front with muds if I didn't rotate and cross-swap at 7,000 miles.   My BFG ATs were really nice on and off-road, and were awesome in Moab.  The very best off-highway tire I ever had on any of my pickups was the old Yokahama Mud Diggers.  At 4 PSI, they were unbelievable in mud, snow, ice, sand, and rocks!!

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Re: BFGoodrich All Terrain KO2 35x12.50 15 Review
« Reply #89 on: Apr 20, 2017, 09:05:59 AM »
I remember drooling over those back in the early 90s.  Never got to run a set.
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